Blobbing heavily depends on the game mode, but yes I agree that rocket artillery is and should be a prime counter for mid/late game blobbing.
I still dislike the idea though. The single rocket might be worse, but since they all come at the same time they annihilate everything inside the circle with higher effectiveness than 3-6 Katy rockets could. Ober the years the whole game has - fortunately - see a rebalance away from one shot wipes to more spread out damage as we could see on especially heavy tanks and mortars. Even if the CD of the Panzerwerfer would be increased, the low angle fire would still be a pretty safe wipe with no opportunity to react towards it or somehow counter it. This is in my eyes bad game design and should be avoided.
Exactly. 100% agreed.
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If you two don't stop your flame war I'm gonna put an end to this bullshit.
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The same way cavemen without thermometers could say fire is hot even though they couldn't measure the raw data of fire and come to a comprehensive conclusion that fire is in fact HOT.
The fact that fire is hot is indeed an undisputible fact. User preference is not.
Using a fire to cook food. It can be to big to hot or to close to the food according to each indevidual caveman.
Now you wanne tell me the things that make the katty more user friendly according to you? Or you wanna keep this bickering going? |
Don't act all high and mighty. I said the data you want is irrelevant. And listen what points I made require more practical data (real world). Like,
%chance of Rocket strike dodged
avg hit area wrt range curve
avg unit cluster area
avg reaction time of attack recipient
%chance to hit target with barrage while no doge
%chance to hit target with barrage while doge
avg damage hit area likely to receive given x number of units
%chance to hit clustered target once they have moved from are
and a fair bit more.
All you are talking about is stuff in theory. but as the saying goes
"it's all good in theory, not in practice"
All AOE profile will do tell what the dice rolls and numbers are like. It won't tell you stuff in game. And no one has the time to gather stats like these.
Then how the hell can you claim x is better the y because its more user friendly. Thats als up to preference per player.
Speaking about acting high and mighty, your being a hypocrite on that. |
All these are meaningless stats. How are supposed to quantify versatility with these data. The answer is your not. If you want to go of in a pointless tangent be my guest. The Fact is the katty is more user friendly and versatile and the stuka simply is more powerful despite both coming sooner(less tech cost associated with them) and on top of that they don't come from tech structures which are kind of a gamble in 1v1 specially.
Ok denei stats all you want it still does not make a great argument for you. Versitilty you qaintify with type of barrage vet ability and bonusses and aoe profile.
As for stats being usseles, "more user friendly" is far more usseles then comparing stats wise. That has even more opinion written all over it.
For claiming facts and then stating data is irrelevant to come to your fact is mind bogeling. You seem to have a different defenition of what a fact is.
I,ll leave it at that. |
Well what kind of data do you want then?
Cost, hp and armour, speed and mobility, min max range, weapon or rocket damage and aoe profile, how many per salvo, fire time cooldown time, spread or scatter, vet bonusses.
Then you look at what type of army they face. |
the fact was that i said the katty was better it wasn't a sentiment.
Okay still opinion and no data or proof for that matter. Just you stating your opnion, that is a fact.
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OK, Let say There is this place where the burger(/insert your favorite food here) is fantastic. But when you go to other places and try the burger there it doesn't taste as good, may be the salt ain't right maybe the cheese isn't quite as good what ever. That my friend is what is lackluster is.
Now, say that you went to a place. You try the burger. And the taste is so poor that you don't to even eat/finish it. That my friend is what is called bad.
Hope you now understand that things have spectrum of quality.
And you did not read carefully then, I most definitely and directly stated that the katty was better. It's not a sentiment it is a fact. You could argue that stuka > werfer is more of a sentiment.
Ok i didnt read carefully enough. That is a fact.
But the katty being better is an opnion or sentiment, not a fact.
If you want to make it a fact please provide evidence or data. Not just your opnion.
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Then star reading what people say more carefully. I never said werfer was bad. I said it was lackluster. Something else being better than another doesnt make the other thing bad. And Nothing is perfect.
Ok but when you say lackluster isnet bad, thats confusing. Lackluster means its lacking something and have nothing to compensate for that. And that doesnt mean its bad in any degree way shape or form?
The sentiment is most definetly katty good and werfer up here. I read correctly. You may not have said it directly but that doesnt change the overall sentiment.
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Ok M8. In what way the werfer is perfect. Because I could just as well point out as many "flaws" it has as stated of katty.
Okay both katty and pwerfer have minusses to their plusses. Who would have thought.
That was the point he made as well as i did. Please stop the ost up mentality. |
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