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Jump back to quoted post9 Sep 2020, 20:50 PMachpawel

The tourneys are not a small sample. It is the best we've got.

Irrelevant. He is really good with all factions, has nothing to do with OKW vs UKF situation.

It wasn't U, that was CODGUY, You started lecturing about how to use sturms. I don't mind but I don't really need a lecture on that. Sturms are 300mp and 30 per model. Just expensive and generally don;t really trade well against other mainline inf. They can be deadly only in some specific circumstances. 80% of time they will be easily beaten by cheaper mainline infantry.

Fair enough. The only thing is that I don't moan but rather react to certain imo silly claims. Right now most players seem to agree that OKW is probably the worst faction to play with. It is hard to read that they are actually not. Especially when it is written by players who don't really play them. I simply believe that such extremely biased opinions should be at least responded to. There are a lot of people reading such forums and instead getting better at the game they may falsely start believing that they lost because allies ar up, not because they simply should learn how to beat certain strats or, more often, just get better at microing their units and choosing favorable engagements.

It is not about wrong comparisons per se, but about comparisons that cherry pick. Your example of CE is actually a good one. CEs are only 170 manpower and have stock flame upgrade plus can be merged into. Very often this 170 manpower is enough to stop much more expensive units from advancing. Also they have a very cheap reinforcement cost. In many game situations it gives you a lot of benefits (e.g. repurchasing engineer unit, sweeping, flaming, repairing, sidecapping, replacing when lost, laying mines, losing models to mines). From this perspective thaey often may be a much better unit in your army composition than fragile sturms. IMO it migh transfer to like 80% of in game scenarios when it is actually better to have a cheaper unit than a more expensive variant doing basically the same things 80-90% of time.

We are the same boat here

True. But I really analyse tourneys, watch them and I used to create game rules (board game rules) and I do see certain things. At the moment OKW is simply more difficult to play with. All I'm trying to do is to pinpoint where their weaknesses are. And the design of the only engineer unit is imo one of the reasons why they are less forgiving to play with.

I didn't write specifically that it is U personally writing sth wrong. It is just that negating, for example, the fact that players prefer to play allies when they want to win in a tourney is wrong. It is a fact that is pretty obvious to most players and viewers of the last couple of tourneys. Some very good players were eliminated because their opponent could chose the faction first (based on higher Master League rating). Such players chose the allies. If both players won their allied matches the player who chose allies first played more matches with them and won thanks to it.

Jump back to quoted post8 Sep 2020, 17:43 PMachpawel

But they ARE up. The last tourney is a great proof for it. If you look at all games it is clearly visible that players choosing allies had a higher chance of winning. I believe one of the better players (at least one) was eliminated because his opponent chose allies first (was allowed to chose first) and then had two games with them while only one with the axis.

I know how to use sturms, trust me on that. What You wrote here are the basics. Imo You should play some more okw and see for yourself. Sturms are good but I'm not sure they are good enough for 300mp and 4 men.

Post scriptum: after one of the above games Kmbo got a warning from the referees to play to his full potential and not delay the game on purpose.

Jump back to quoted post7 Sep 2020, 19:30 PMachpawel

Kibo played in the league of his own. He mocked Hans the whole game. I wouldn't draw any balance conclusions based on this specific matchup.

Generally Sturms are better pios. Lots of persisting opinions are based on the situation we had a patches ago (before all the buffs to cons, rifles and infantry sections). Since then sturms have been much easier to deal with and it is much easier to make them drop a model before they close in. Even cons can deal with them when stationary. Only a much better player than the allied opponent will be able to actually use Sturms effectively closing the distance and using them only at very close ranges.

Jump back to quoted post6 Sep 2020, 12:26 PMachpawel

From my experience Katyusha is the deadliest (off all mentioned rocket arties) targeting retreat points with max range, especially after vet. Because it fires in salvos it does not have to time the barrage so precisely. On many maps (1v1) it can do it sitting almost in base sector. When vetted it is the longest range monster. Stuka has too big "holes" between the rockets. Usually it is much worse at dealing team weapons due to its rockets random behavior and the need to aim and time much more precisely.

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2020, 02:59 AMGachiGasm

Pf are upgrade because of how volks are presented in the meta. If snare was awaible after track arrival, if over-all damage and scaling was better for volks and their match up vs other mainline inf, it would have been debatable.

But as it is right now, yes. Because PF provide you with snares, better upgradable weapons and better scaling.

Thats is the point, if balance is working correctly then call-ins should be an optional, debatable chose which gives you more ways to play with the faction, when core units or faction is not working properly, then we have meta\no-brainer\pick-or-lose commanders and call-ins. Either that or its elite armor on release.