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Jump back to quoted post10 Aug 2020, 18:47 PMachpawel

This is sth I'd use to describe players who don't see the obvious - it is really manpower heavy to repair/sweep/mine with a 300mp unit that has 30mp reinforcement cost. That is real mental gymnastics not to see that and start talking about the (perceived) superiority of axis armour.

Which does not even need to transfer into additional AT shot. Let alone the fact that hand held at stuff can be equipped on almost anything and just dish damage continuously.

This an example of extreme mental gymnastics.

For the price of 1 KT You can but 2 medium tanks/tanks TD, and still have some resources for infantry. The cost efficiency of KT is so bad that either a player has already won the game and just builds it for fun, or You should be happy seeing it as it will mean they will lose the game soon.

I never wrote it is meaningless. IMO it is much worse to have one tiger than two other tanks (TD+premium medium, for example)

How is that piece of text related to expensive sturms or state of OKW? Allied TDs are basically very potent and shut most axis medium armour completely. It is a bit unfair to say the least.

But I specifically used this example to prove that one allied tank is enough and to deal with it OKW will need a puma and to deal with infantry it will need Luchs. I only wrot it to show that axis may need more tanks than allies - you suggested that allies have usually more tanks. And t-70 is one of the most imbalanced units in game (probably next to UKF Valentine).

This fragment - I don't understand, especially gotcha part. Just play the axis mate for a while at least and try to get to similar level with them.

Another example of mental gymnastics. It still is much worse than having 3 CEs. Mate - just face the reality. It is really harder to repair Ur tanks/vehicles as OKW. OKW is in terrible spot right now imo. Much more difficult to play than all allied factions. Instead of repeating myths You could try to pinpoint where the problems are. But to do that You would have to play them...

Jump back to quoted post10 Aug 2020, 07:29 AMachpawel

You do but my opinion is that playing the opposite side will make everybody much better at playing their preferred faction. It is really hard to explain it in detail but it just makes one play so much better then. You just know how to handle the opponent's units much better. You know their weaknesses or You are just able to appreciate how good, for example, somebody was with repositioning their mg rather than believing that their mg is better.

But the problem is that those tanks have just one cannon that often shoots less often, their speed is much lower, etc. It ends up with being a huge damage sponge and has to retreat for repairs. Anyway, this is fairly well balanced in an asymmetrical way. I don't think that anything needs to be adjusted here much. The problem is that the impact of axis armour is much lower due to slow repair speeds or more complicated way of arranging them or just the necessity to pay so much more for the same repair results. Same with sweeping.

Yes, and this is pretty well balanced. What is not balanced it the cost of repair units, their availability and how much more manpower axis (OKW especially) need to use to keep their tanks running when compared with allies (especially USF). Also remember that axis often pay much more for those tanks, which again may make them arrive too late. Also remember that p4 from okw will be shooting at even 5-7 men squads and its aoe has to be larger to make sure it creates similar manpower bleed to allied tanks shooting primarily at 4-5 men squads. So some of, for example, p4 stats make it even with Cromwell or Sherman even if the are a bit higher at vet 0. So the higher price will not necessarily reflect better performance when you realise it will face different types of infantry units (more models, cheaper reinforcement cost per model).

I think one stock unit. But again this is pretty well balanced.

This should be better balanced. Sturm is too expensive to cover the fact that USF will have crews plus echelons and Soviets will have very cheap CEs on top of a lot of doctrine repair options (Cons, stations, self-repair) and the UKF will start buying sappers for as little as 210mp. Their reinforcement cost will also be cheaper and they will bleed you less. What is more, allies will spend the saved manpower on more infantry, at weapons, etc creating the situation in which the axis player will have to decide if they prefer to lose the infantry war or repair their armour. Speed is just one factor, the manpower economy behind is even more important.

So imo Volks could be balanced around the concept of their armour support rather then buffing their combat performance. A sweeper, reducing a volks squad combat performance (can't be stg upgraded) but allowing OKW to finally have similar chances of clearing mines and repairing stuff to allies is a good solution. OKW will still be inferior to allies probably as crews will repair faster without any cost and sappers/CEs are cheaper anyway. OKW will sacrifice combat performance and munitions to have this extra sweeper so it shouldn't be a big deal. It will just free up the OKW player from the need to buy 300mp unit with 30 reinforcement cost to just sweep for mines and repair.

Jump back to quoted post9 Aug 2020, 12:29 PMachpawel

It is balanced well. More range vs more armour. The repair and sweeping is not balanced. You need to withdraw expensive units from the frontline and maybe even build more of them while Your opponent will just exit the crew, buy repair/sweeping units more cheaply, etc. Volks with a sweeper would just even it out.

Jump back to quoted post7 Aug 2020, 19:04 PMDerKuhlmann

With usa nade bulletin and vet 3 riflemen can throw the same distance as a rifle grenade

same with brits

same with conscripts molotow

ostheer just get the nade range first

Jump back to quoted post7 Aug 2020, 14:26 PMKatitof

Funny you say that, because with recent vet changes they actually do.

Vet3 grens can't be killed by nade as long as they have more then 80% health.
Earlier something similar applied to Rangers as well, but it got removed and replaced by rec acc.

Also, you're both completely wrong on reinforcement costs.

Basic old formula is (total squad cost/model count/2), there are exceptions and vast majority of these exceptions come from axis units that have cheaper reinforce(like aforementioned obers who used to have 50mp reinforce cost) or penals who reinforce for more then the formula would indicate as a result of balance tweaks.

To understand all the tweaks and changes, you'd have to go through 7 years of patch notes, but that's general formula.