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Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback19 Dec 2020, 21:58 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Dec 2020, 20:22 PMVipper It is nice to see that you make a distinction in large and small modes. When it comes to 4v4 I think that doctrinal changes like removing stuka/elefant combo will fix a number of issues. I used to be a 4v4 player wich i still play sometimes. Going 1v1 was an eye opener. I do wonder what you and other people see as the other viable options for soviets are in the 4v4 late game vs ele or jagd doctrines? now that ram plus offmap will go the way of the dodo. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback19 Dec 2020, 19:17 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Dec 2020, 18:50 PMVipper Nice to see that, unlike some other users who are on crusade to convince everyone that Soviet are the worse faction by far, we agree. Nice to see we agree. Nice to see we agree. Although I generally agree that is an issue that has more do with most stock mediums and not with T-34/76. On the other hand soviet got a number of buff like 3 PTRS cheaper and better healing, Su-7. And on the other hand Ostheer got a number of nerf in the crutch doctrines so one has to see where chips will fall. I personaly feel the only 3 things that might or will help are the healing buff, easier smoke barrages on the mortar and the ptrs buff on penals. The m3 change is fine but wont do much in 4v4 They however do not compensate or rationalize the massive broad stroke nerfs across mid to late game. If all these changes are final soviet late game in 4v4 is crippled massivly. 1v1 will mostly be intact, just 0 ramming and mid game will be harder. All they viably can do in 4v4 is spam su85/katty or go isu or is2 docs. 3 of wich axis mains already consider to be op or god tier op. Nerfs request will triple on those units by the next patch. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback19 Dec 2020, 16:09 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Dec 2020, 15:43 PMVipper Wil just have to wait and see unless you can provide replays from preview where soviet struggle. They where strong and still are strong in late game. The changes to Ram are nerf to ram/off map combo which needed a nerf, they meant as nerfs the T-34/76. T-34/76 is a cost efficient unit even without ram. I am sure why you are focusing in my opinion thou. In live 1v1 they dont struggle. And are not op. They are solid. In 1v1 without ram the t34 is cost effective but nothing special unless massed. I have no problem with the ele countering allied td's but soviets need a viable counter to it. And with these changes they wont imo. In 4v4 t34's only viable use is to ram because its wrecked in an instant, it doenst last in nearly any engagement. Its main gun only tickles panthers tigers and other 260 plus armoured units. Its ai isent strong enough to make it worthwhile, any at support wil force the t34 off before it does enough or any ai damage. It doesnt have any utility to make up for it being the weakest medium. Flanking is none excistant there, thats if the t34 had strenghts to flank to begin with.. without ram (wich is gutted with these changes) its is a pointless unit in 4v4. I only focused on your remark because it stood out to me. Same with any that think nerfing an entire or near entire mid/late game of any faction for that matter is a good change. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback19 Dec 2020, 15:41 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Dec 2020, 11:49 AMSander93 This does not necessarily say anything about the other options, it mostly says something about how easy and relatively cost effective it is to use a ram + offmap. Players will always choose the easiest and most effective option. That doesn't mean that without ram, the Soviets are suddenly powerless. They have plenty of other options. That being said, Jaeger Armor is definitely on the list to get nerfed too, but it's unsure whether or not we can do this in this patch or the next one. I apriciate all the work still being done on this game, but this (nerf) patch will not help soviets in the slightest. They where far from op. The high number off nerfs late game make no sense to me. Nerfing nearly the entire mid and late game with nothing in return doesnt make other options more viable imo, esp if the opposing side gets buffed in that same late game. Other options where not effective and now even less so, you will nearly always end up trading badly considering your are likely going to loose more units then you kill. Soviet will need to go t34 85 is2 and isu doctrines. Td spam will be even more common, the t34 76 will be a pointles unit in the bigger games. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback19 Dec 2020, 15:11 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Dec 2020, 14:01 PMVipper Well the patch just did... Exactly, the entire stock soviet mid to late will be very weak if this patch goes live. Every unit in the mid game got a nerf, t34 and su85 nerfed in t4, with minor buffs in the early game to compensate an already weak early game. Its not like soviet where strong or op in the late game now where they? And you still support ram nerf/removal with no buff for the t34 at least with so many nerfs to the stock rooster and isu? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback19 Dec 2020, 13:46 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Dec 2020, 12:09 PMVipper One can not nerf the Elefant unless he also nerf allied TDs at the same time. You also cant nerf allied td's without nerfing panther and tigers. Allied td's are the only thing keeping suprior axis armour from pushing and roflstomping allies every time esp in big modes. Do axis actualy auto loose the game to the ram plus offmap combo? I doubt it, as axis dont loose as much tanks they can bank more fuel the allies and more quickly replace losses. If we where to leave ram as is, wich i prefer, we should into delaying the off maps or being less accurate/devastating making the need to have follow up ready in most ram plus offmap engagements. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback19 Dec 2020, 12:02 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Dec 2020, 11:03 AMVipper A Super heavy TD can not be countered by tanks and TD well that makes sense. Imagine what would happened if allied stock TD counter counter every axis vehicles from Kubel to Elefant... It doesnt excuse the fact that t34 ram plus off maps is basicly the only way for soviets to counter such a unit without taking staggering losses making at a bad trade. And that method is being taken away with no alternatives given... that is the issue here. The t34 imo fails as a generalist, fails in shock value, fails as a flanker, and despite being cheap fails as a atrrition tank. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback18 Dec 2020, 18:19 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Dec 2020, 14:23 PMVipper Once more it there in patch notes in black and white. "*The intent isn’t for a full health T34 to ram* other vehicles; instead, ram should be used when the T34 is near death to highlight its usage as a last resort type ability." I actualy use ram almost exlusivly vs heavy tanks. Then i consider it good trade, vs mediums not so much as i loose 300 mp and 90 fuel and i need to replace that with a new t34 or something else. So to me its a heavy tank counter and not a last resort. With the 50% hp threshold its dead before connecting. Its not a last resort or anything anymore, just free exp for the enemy and loosing fuel and mp for me. Now if we give the t34 a very very small target size during ram it can dive without being destroyed before hitting the target, then its can work but change in v 2 is still pointles then, it wont be going any anytime anyway after ram. I also do like giving t34 smoke rounds, this way your weak tanks have a chance to close in without getting wrecked before getting into effective range. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback18 Dec 2020, 11:28 AM Jump back to quoted post18 Dec 2020, 11:24 AMTickTack The change doesn't address the core problem, which was that people hated being rammed and then having off-maps rain down on their elefant. So it can't be a good idea or change. If T34 is gonna die from ram anyway, it makes no difference if you start it > or < 50% hp. I haven't seen anyone claim the ram is too iconic to take out, that sounds like spin to me in the patch notes. If mod team wants to get rid of stun, they should remove ram, and then give small buff to either cost or pen of the tank. Just rip the band-aid off If ram can only be done at 50% hp it wont hit the tank, it will be dead before it hits. Now if rams always gives you a nearly full refund that would be intetesting lol. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback18 Dec 2020, 06:35 AM Jump back to quoted post18 Dec 2020, 06:02 AMSpoof The ram change is honestly a great idea. You're not gonna try to ram a with T34 without expecting it to die anyway. Its not even gonna reach to target anymore, thats the problem. And if its at 50% hp and you repair it ram becomes unavailable again? In: COH2 Balance