Then you phrased it unclearly, I connected the teching to PFs, not Obersoldaten.
But no, there is no additional cost. OKW does not pay anything extra to give their mainline upgrades or faust/nade.
then u didn't actually calc it, with their minus starting fuel and all upgrades unlocked okw has the most expensive full tech tree (even more expensive than ukf) and tank will come later than other factions unless they buy side techs (example ukf reach tanks rushing by 50 less fuel than okw with upgrades like bolster and weapon they even out, usf is similar ) |
You can't compare the tech up of OKW that enables PF G43 upgrade with Bren or BAR side tech of UKF/USF. Absolutely not. As OKW you'll tech up anyway, there's no additional cost for you.
Also the comparison with paratroopers is very unfavorably for you, as they come (and still will come) later than the OKW teching.
obv they don0't copare , taht's why they are doc unit, and like all doc unit they don0't have a side tech (dps,stv,ppsh,etc), btw there is an additional cost, it's just in the tech already 8okw has the most expensive tech
para will come later than obers with lmg ? |
Grens can turn into a double shreck squad? Grens can become 6 men with bonus vision? Fussies can upgrade to lmg?
They really aren't that similar, and again, what are you even trying to show? There's no point to this
When you stop pretending side-techs dont exist, you can start talking about delusions
tagain 1 okw has it tier locked too 2 i think pfusi are the only call in that needs to wait for upgrades (why do para 2 lmg come with no tech cost ? while obers need to pay 170 fu to reach ? by ur logic this is way more investment)
do stv cons cost tech ? do guards dp cost tech ? |
That pint went right over your head didn't it? It wasn't a "cons have it bad" it was "we literally know exact how much a snare costs on t0 infantry because we literally have a reference point"
But to answer your question, with the exception of Tommies sandbags cost long term combat power OR slot in a doctrine and oorah costs approximately exactly 2x the price of sprint.
wow what a coincidence |
I didn't ask you to compare them to anything
The gren comparison doesnt show us anything, the 2 units are not much alike then u are delusional , they do similar dps and similar durability similar curve , similar upgrades and scaling + the at nades u asked so much |
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I compared them to gren tho as u asked , no rifle , no volks no cons |
It takes 3 shots, which is a long time for a tank to be hanging around someones base, however its very easy to a drive by when the thing dies in 1. The entire point is that you dont have to be getting facerolled to get your ambulance picked off, they can just show up, shoot it, and scram, even if its an otherwise even match
give the usf hq a 20 % damage reduction aura for the ambulance only ? |
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now to close the argument without sky to cherry pick
as shown by test and dps chart, fusilier have the same performance as gren (as a whole squad not x model) but have more durability vs explosive (until vet 3) thanks to the 5th men, both have at nade too
the vet of fusilier is comparable to other mainlines and same as penals
the upgrades they have are in the middle (worse than 2 bar better than just 3 g43), and fairly priced (the 5th men upgrade for green cost 60 mun and it comes with RA and 1 g43, for 30 more munition u get 2 more g43, makes sense as 1 g43 cost 15 mun)
the 280 mp cost is not worth their current performance
btw this is an even worse match up than volks vs rifle as : they are doctrinal, the enemy unit has good vet (unlike volks), the enemy units upgrades are priced ok (unlike volks stg which are worse than bar) and the maximum potential is not as high (like double bar rifle)
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Maybe, can't say for sure.
Redid the range 0 test with 6 fights, outcome was 50/50, all very close except for one Riflemen squad who survived with 2 models and a bit more health than the usual "pixel" of all other fights (but also not much).
Might redo the ranged ones if I find the time.
i think there is no need to, the g43 dps is the same at long range as the base rifle, while bar double the dps at long range they should win reliably there (11,58 dps pfusi upgraded squad vs 13 of the double bar rifle) |
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