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Thread: Must Have Units10 Nov 2014, 10:34 AM Coelian = Prototype, never existed Panzer IV Ausf. H = Vet 2 Panzer IV, already ingame In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: How to fix ISU-152 and JagdTiger7 Nov 2014, 15:29 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Nov 2014, 15:19 PMfaus515 ok this guy think if tank made "tratatata shots" that it`s be better and is-2/isu-152 "1 boom" not enought Panthers could also "1 boom" their targets. But sure, firing your shots at a way slower rate is an advantage now. If IS-2 and ISU-152 didn´t hit with the first shot, they were in trouble. That´s why you needed 4 ISU-152s to keep up a normal rate of fire. Jump back to quoted post7 Nov 2014, 15:19 PMBurts And in order to hit the target you need to aim, not just reload. Aiming takes time , which is why there is a difference in theoretical rate of fire and actual rate of fire. Well that applies to both tanks. IS-2 and ISU-152 have to aim and reload also. Still the Panther has the better reload time. Relatively speaking there is no change. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: How to fix ISU-152 and JagdTiger7 Nov 2014, 14:33 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Nov 2014, 13:40 PMBurts Hmm, horrible reload times, IS-2 rate of fire is 2-3 rounds per minute.You are severely overstating the effect of slow reload times. Yes a panther or a king tiger could theoretically shoot alot faster, but in a battlefield, nobody is going to be shooting like that since it is just wasting ammo. Even modern tanks only have a fire rate of on average 6 rounds. For example the Abrams has a firerate of 6 rounds per minute, not to bad for the a tank that is 70 years old to only fire twice as slow as a modern tank, eh? I´ll just ignore all the other bullshit and just focus on this one: What does the 70 year difference have to do with all of this? Even 70 years ago Panthers etc. could fire 6 rounds a minute. That makes the IS-2 rate of fire shit. And in WW2 on range a lot of shots missed. You would overshoot the target or hit the ground in front of it, adjust and fire again. The second/third shot would hit. A Panther etc. can do this way faster than an IS-2. And this is a huge advantage if every shot can make the difference between life and death. Here you can see the Tiger-Fibel tutorial on how to hit on range ... first shot, second shot. Third one will hit. It´s obvious that a faster rate of fire is one of the most significant advantages in this. Oh and that IS-2 has to level the gun back to normal and then aim again... good luck trying to hit shit with that. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: How to fix ISU-152 and JagdTiger7 Nov 2014, 12:47 PM If we look at the large scale, throughout the war Soviet armor performed poorly. For whatever reason that is (crews, handheld AT and AT guns, tactics, doctrine, the tank design, radios etc.). Soviet super tanks - like you want them - are out of place. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: How to fix ISU-152 and JagdTiger7 Nov 2014, 12:20 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Nov 2014, 12:06 PMfaus515 isu-122 = jt (profit) and is-2 rebalance = KT panters / tigers = is-1/su-100/kv-85 Funny how the Russian guy wants realism... So... ISU-152, IS-2 etc. had HORRIBLE reload times. Their optics weren´t on par with German optics. Their ergonomics were poor. The rounds carried were half as much as those of regular tanks. IS-2 had to set the gun to standard position after every shot in order to reload, having to readjust on target after every shot, leading to poor target tracking. Panthers and Tigers were much better than the IS-1 and KV-85. The IS-1 flopped and barely saw any action. Hell, the KV-85 has the 85mm of the T-34/85 which was insufficient to penetrate the Panther frontally. The IS-2 is hardly comparable to the KT as you claim. KT is a different league, in the same weight category the Panther is more comparable. And the Panther was the better performing machine, having the flatter trajectory, reload time (3x as fast), optics, crew comfort etc. In general Soviet tanks were CLUMSY machines. Looking good on paper because of a big gun but lacking in everything else. If you wanted realism, your Soviet tanks would be pretty much weaker than now. There would be more, but complaining that they are too weak on a 1v1 basis is wrong. On topic: That being said, the ISU-152 and JT should rather get a reload time increase and a minimum range of 10m. I think that will be sufficient. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Poll: Do Soviets need a major faction redesign?6 Nov 2014, 11:47 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2014, 11:32 AMMarcoRossolini Interesting discussion, it appears there's pretty strong agreement that Soviets need to be changed heavily in some way. How much though is split about 50-50. I think one of the problems for the Soviets is the essential fragility of their units, 6 man squads only count vs snipers, the rest of the time, the damage inflicted on each other is roughly equal. This means that if you have squads brought down to one man and retreating, then the damage inflicted on them is greater compared to a German squad brought down to one man. Now 6 men are less survivable? It greatly increases the survivability versus Snipers and any kind of explosion, tank and artillery alike. Sovs have two men more dealing damage. Sovs can recrew a weapon and you are not brought down to that single man who instantly has to retreat, like the Germans. 6 men on any weapon crew are also annoying. Usually if you catch a German weapon crew off guard, it will go down. I´ve lost count on how many Maxims run through two squads of Grenadiers just to make it out alive. The bitter thing is that throwing away those crew weapons really does punish you. That´s definitely not a disadvantage. If anything the survivability of Russian infantry is higher than that of the Germans. 4 men squads are usually brought down to that one man faster than 6 men squads - eventually wiping the squad and vet. Russian infantry is all but fragile. More survivability isn´t needed. What´s annoying about playing them is the restrictions. There is no non doctrinal omni purpose tank (T-34/76 doesn´t really count). There´s either Shock troopers or AT infantry, not both. This is incredibly restricting and dull. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Luchs and 2225 Nov 2014, 23:15 PM Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2014, 20:04 PMKatitof Osttruppen and Obersoldaten also both use Kar98 rifles. Someone mentioned it in another thread. Training. How else are you going to depict a squad of trained Grenadiers who fire their rifles and a squad of guys with less training who are forced to fight for the Germans? Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2014, 20:04 PMKatitof Same weapon as well for paratroopers and RETs. Training. Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2014, 20:04 PMKatitof Why partisan LMG42 does only 50% of gren LMG42? Its same weapon. Training. Potato farmers vs actual soldiers. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Poll: Do Soviets need a major faction redesign?5 Nov 2014, 09:53 AM Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2014, 08:13 AMAshmole I think an easy fix would be to add a global veterancy upgrade building ala the kampfkraft center from COH1. This allows soviet units to scale later in the gamr by having guaranteed vet units. This design was flawed in the original Coh. I remember threads with the name "Wehrmacht vet - the cancer of Coh". So that´s not a good option. Also it would be silly to have vet 3 T-34/85s from the stock, making StuGs and Panzer IVs even weaker in comparison. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Obersoldaten and stuff29 Oct 2014, 10:28 AM Breaking news: Troops with machine guns perform better versus infantry than squads armed with rifles. Why shouldn´t they? Germans relied heavily on machine guns in every squad. It´s nice to see that implemented ingame. Why would I build a machine gun if it didn´t boost the performance drastically. The only problem I have with LMGs is that Obersoldaten can fire on the move. They should be stationary like Grens. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: So, lets talk about the ISU-152 and jagtiger changes.23 Oct 2014, 20:13 PM Wait, you have to attack ground with them? I thought they only stopped attacking by themselves and you had to right click on a target so they would fire. In: COH2 Balance