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) and he streamed some replay where soviets captured luchsa and it literally killed every inf that OKW and ost had, even obers were going down with first burst, but when i compare 222 to Luchs i see that 222 main gun is a crap, with main gun you can't kill inf, only MG's are doing some damage.
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Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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I'd like to see the 222 cost increased but made resistant to small arms fire, at the moment I mostly find it to be trash, high micro low reward, and I don't ever recall it killing anything on retreat.
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Osttruppen and Obersoldaten also both use Kar98 rifles.
Same weapon as well for paratroopers and RETs.
Why partisan LMG42 does only 50% of gren LMG42?
I'd like to see the 222 cost increased but made resistant to small arms fire, at the moment I mostly find it to be trash, high micro low reward, and I don't ever recall it killing anything on retreat.
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The first two don't count because it's supposed to represent the skill of the units. There's nothing 'skill' based about the Luchs firing faster even though it's the same gun.
The last one I think you accidentally a word.
I wouldn't be opposed to that, maybe the 221 would be worth using then. Unless you're going for the 222 upgrade, it's seriously not worth it.
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Well instead of skill you could say that the panzer II is a better chassis and manages the recoil of the gun better than the 222, which results in the better lethality of the luchs.
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That doesn't explain the fire rate discrepancies.
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Sure it can. Maybe the RPM on the gun was lowered because it's an armored car and not a tank and the mount cannot handle recoil as well. Also, you don't think a larger turret and chassis results in faster reloading too? It certainly does.
Honestly, I can keep making up semi-bullshit stuff all day, but this is the way relic balances and that's that...
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Because when you field a Luchs, you could field a P4.
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You do know that gun was loaded like big, fat HMG? Its called autocannon for a reason.
Thou it really doesn't matter, both units are balanced around their costs.
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Osttruppen and Obersoldaten also both use Kar98 rifles.Someone mentioned it in another thread. Training. How else are you going to depict a squad of trained Grenadiers who fire their rifles and a squad of guys with less training who are forced to fight for the Germans?
Same weapon as well for paratroopers and RETs.Training.
Training. Potato farmers vs actual soldiers.
Why partisan LMG42 does only 50% of gren LMG42? Its same weapon.
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Permanently BannedSomeone mentioned it in another thread. Training. How else are you going to depict a squad of trained Grenadiers who fire their rifles and a squad of guys with less training who are forced to fight for the Germans?
Training.
Training. Potato farmers vs actual soldiers.
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not all autocannons work the same; the boffers 40mm uses stripper clips. modern autocannons/chainguns do use belt feed because it's more efficient.
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>Implying training matters at all in the age of machine guns and flamethrowers, which were both hilariously easy to use
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not all autocannons work the same; the boffers 40mm uses stripper clips. modern autocannons/chainguns do use belt feed because it's more efficient.
the 222 is really shitty though. by the time it comes out hard counters area available to all factions and it has meh surviveability even against small arms. the M20 has similar issues but is fully independent because of the crew repair.
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