You are assuming it didn´t have to be leveled down, because it´s not mentioned in the instruction. One could also assume it´s not mentioned there, because it´s obvious. The tank manual probably doesn´t mention opening the hatches to enter the tank either. Doesn´t mean one doesn´t need to open the hatches. If faced with the problem of not being able to fit the shell and propellant into the gun, a normal human will level it down. No need to write it down.
I think Germans who revolve their tactic around the gun being leveled down to survive and reporting from that, is a more reliable source than assumptions based on a manual.
What illustration? I dont see any illustration stating king tiger was penetrated at 1000m...
That illustration of yours that states projectile: 100mm/L52 APBC, target King Tiger hull and then shows the green part. That side is bugged as it seems.
I have absolutely no idea where this myth came from that the gun had to be levelled to 0 degrees to reload. This is completely false. It's accuracy was not "piss poor" and was just as accurate as KWK 43.
Lt. Wolfgang Kloth of the 2nd Panzer Div. commented that German crews quickly realized that the IS-2 had to first level the gun downward to reload the cannon, then reacquire the target each time to fire.
This is a fact and Germans used that to their advantage.
How stugs and PIVs were able to defeat 120mm of armor is beyond me....
"During the first engagements in early 1944 the IS-2s showed an unexpectedly high amount of losses, especially against the smaller german 7,5cm guns of StuG and Panzer IV aswell as the similar 7,5cm Pak. In many tests and trials of fire made by the design offices, the cause was found in the unfavorable stepped shape of the frontal armor. this was 60mm thick at an inclination of 18° flat and then stepped up at the drivers hatch to 120mm."
The shot would get deflected down at the drivers hatch into the 60mm strong armor.
That illustration is likely false. The KT hull was never ever penetrated in the war. And there it says that from more than a km away it was penetrated? I call bullshit.
People see the IS-2 and think it´s a godlike tank. They however like to ignore the horrendous flaws it had.
Errors such as piss-poor accuracy due to the gun having to be leveled to its original position in order to reload. After ever shot the gun had to be leveled and aimed at the target again and again.
Errors such as an increased reload time, giving it less than half the rate of fire of normal tanks.
Frontal armor flaws on the early version (drivers hatch), which resulted in Panzer IV and StuGs fighting the early version effectively from the front.
A gun unsuitable for long range combat. The trajectory was bent due to the weight of the shell.
The IS-2 was hopelessly outclassed by the King Tiger, which of course had its own flaws. However in a regular engagements the 88mm was more than sufficient to defeat IS-2s even at 2km.
This is getting ridiculous. Panthers and Tigers weak?
I didn´t say weak, but weaker than most patches before. Remember the last patch where nobody built Panthers? That was corrected in this patch. Now we can expect nerfs again?
Last time an equal number or superior number worth of fuel could kill a Panther (OMG!!!!). Not it can usually kill 2-3 times its fuel cost....
Panther is supposed to be a counter versus armor. If you are not stupid and park your vehicles in front of it, you will win.
Defeating Panthers with an equal fuel amount is btw bullshit also. It´s the most expensive non doctrinal hard counter to fuel based targets itself.
Guess what? Good usage of Panthers is rewarded, charging in your T-34s is punished. But even then there is abilities as P47 and mark target which give you the superiority and allow you to frontally engage Panthers.
A Panther on equal skill and micro level can fight 1 1/2 T-34/85s.
Rebuffing the Panthers frontal armor is what completely broke the OKW vs USF armored Matchup and leaves USF with unsatisfactory Penetration on ALL things. Tiger and King Tiger can be dealt with because they ARE slow. Panther is not. Panther is OP as hell right now at least against USF.
Panthers aren´t OP. They are the only unit that can soft-counter M36s (once vet1), but they can still be easily overwhelmed by the 240dmg and 60 range.
Your playercard btw shows that in 1vs1 you played 907 games as Allies and 133 games as Axis. That´s almost 7 times as much games as Allies. I guess your impression comes from that.
What is that supposed to mean? Kittens = Tiger, Tiger B, Panther
Only the Tiger ace and the Tiger B are strong.
Panthers barely handle T-34/85s, lose to them if not properly used and suck versus infantry. Previous patches showed how useless it is with even slight nerfs. Touch that thing and you destroy Ostheer.
Tigers are good versus infantry but are only mediocre versus armor. Constant nerfs to its health lead to it being not very survivable. Will most likely lose to an IS-2. No nerfs needed.
Have to fight 60range, 240 damage, Jacksons.
How are Kittens OP again? In fact Panther and Tiger are at one of their weakest states ever in this game.
Silver Sage put it nicely. It´s a force multiplier. He didn´t mention however that it´s so micro intensive and clumsy that you are better off with an additional Gren squad for your Gren blob.
You can either chose to cripple your mobility with a hardly useful unit, or having a chance to overwhelm the enemy with a unit that´s mobile, doesn´t get flanked and can at least put out some dps. The MG42 offers less effect for more micro. I prefer building Grens and blob. It´s more relaxing.
I´ve changed my Ostheer build from Gren, MG, Gren, Mg to 4x Gren. And since then I win games. I love when people (who btw think that the MG42 is great) complain about me blobbing Grens.
Is that how the game is supposed to be played? No? Then better fix MGs.
Explain to me, noting the effective sustained RoF, how the MG 42 was a face-smashingly good design. Was it better than a lot of MGs out there? Yep. But it's not like it was impossible for water-cooled MGs to utterly faceroll it in the sustained suppressive fire category.
I don´t know whether it can be called a face-smashingly good design. But for sure it was the best MG of the second world war. It improved the already successful design of the MG34.
Most significant advantages were:
A single infantry man could carry it. It didn´t weight much as it was air cooled.
The barrel change was easy. Takes about 5 seconds.
Most commonly belt fed. 250 rounds > 30, 20 respectively.
Ease of production. The MG42 was in fact easier to mass produce than the MG34. Around 415.500 exemplars produced.
High rate of fire. This is - contrary to what some guys here want to put it - an advantage. The more fire you can but on the enemy the better. German squads usually had the fire superiority on that basis, despite having bolt action rifles. It´s downright funny how some guys make this a look like a total disadvantage. It´s different tactics. The whole German squad concept revolved around the MG42putting as much lead into the air as possible. The Kar98k bolt action was used for single aimed shots or often not at all.
Most axis players has a real life which is very hard. Coh2 is like getting home from a hard day at the factory and start beating up the wife. It relieves the stress from being a dog in real life.
I´ll take that as a joke... because this statement just can´t be serious.
You just insulted a huge amount of the player base simply for playing a faction? We should totally get rid of this "German faction playing scum" and only enable playing Allies vs the Computer in multiplayer!
To begin with most axis players dont have a wife as what woman will tolerate a beating from a jerk
And this guy is just buying it. "Axis players have no girlfriend", so I assume every glorious Soviet player has one? It must be the spine and charisma that just Allied players have, which attract women.
Note how this guy is only referring to two German factions as "the Axis", although they play and perform totally different. It´s just some phobia from Germans it seems to me. Only the ones that play Allies are clean and honest people, or what?
I hope I just didn´t get the joke, because otherwise you guys make me sick.
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