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Thread: [Winter Balance Update] General Discussion3 Dec 2020, 14:15 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Dec 2020, 07:53 AMmrgame2 a 60 range elefant needs a rof boost then, make it shoot as fast as su85. 400 armour and 300 damage and 400ish pen isent enough? So when axis get the same treatment buffs are required somehow. Figures. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback2 Dec 2020, 19:12 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Dec 2020, 13:22 PMVipper I am simply responding to your claim that "allies have better stock heavy td,s wich get their asses kicked by ele and jagdt" and pointing out that pound for pound Elefant lose those TDs. Once could make that claim when Elefant did 320 damage but that is not the case anymore. Now think about the other way around and lets say Elefant gets nerfed and it can no longer win vs allied TDs frontally. How is factions Axis going to counter all the "better stock heavy td,s" allies get? The elephant has a ridicoulously high pen, at max range even. Only the is2 has the armour to match that pen. The allied td's (their non doc top end game at) dont have the hp armour pen range or damage to engage a supported ele/jagd and come out victorius. Even in groups or spam. You will mostly just waste your units and force a repair on the ele/jagd that is a bad how ever you see it. What would hapen if the jagd and ele get nerfed? As you said for allies to take out an ele, axis need to smoke (wich axis have plenty of doctrinaly) and flank (with blitz wich was its intended use) only they have more powerfull tanks and stronger hh at doctrinal at straving at planes. Axis are not crutching on ele jagd because they need to. Its because they can. Allies are crutching on td's or doctrinals because they have to. In team games at least. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback2 Dec 2020, 13:15 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Dec 2020, 13:11 PMMr Carmine Try those units against a supported ele. These equal fuel/popcap match ups almost never happen, an ele is never alone. If it is its a player problem. And where do you have the option to not engage an ele frontaly in this game? Almost nowhere. Big maps are 3 or 4 lanes with a few crossing options where you will run into the other players most likely. You can almost never flank in big games where ele's and isu's reighn. If flanking is a viable option you'd have a point. The su76's wont have enough time to kill it, any support will kill them before they kill the ele with all their bouncing. Or the support draws the fire of the su76's also bouncing their shots. The m36's wont fair better as the support will probably kill the m36,s before they finish off the ele. The isu is under more threat then elephants are. Esp if ram gets gutted as intended The panther has more then decent chance to pen frontaly. It has a decent chance to bounce isu or other at fire. Its lots faster. And its also getting an unneeded and undeserved acc buff. Making it an even greater threat. Now reduce isu ai range and it needs to expose itself to danger more often against supirior at fire power wich initself is already a bigger threat then allied at is to the elephant. It needs to have a decent chance to backoff if forced to be closer to the action. Not everything is about units in a vacuum. The faction the unit is in matters as well. Its probably more important. Coming back to hp left after 2 shot from ele and isu. If the support is anything other the a tank or at gun. Say shrecks zooks ptrs and piats. The shreck will have a far greater chance off succes. Higher pen higher damage vs less hp left. The zook and ptrs do less damage have less pen vs higher remaining hp plus higher armour of those mediums. Forgot to anser try to kill a zis with elephant question. The isu will cleun up a pak. But the ele will bounce some shot while backing off. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback2 Dec 2020, 13:11 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Dec 2020, 11:02 AMVipper Now try to kill a zis with Elefant and Pak with ISU. Try using 2 M36 with AP around vs Elefant and see what happens, hell try using 3 Su-76 vs Elefant and see what happens. If the support is tank or ATG its the same since weather 40 or 160 they still need only 1 shot. Elfant is single purpose unit, it a slow tank destroyer design to win frontal engagement, attacking frontally and expecting to win is actually doing something wrong. Try those units against a supported ele. These equal fuel/popcap match ups almost never happen, an ele is never alone. If it is its a player problem. And where do you have the option to not engage an ele frontaly in this game? Almost nowhere. Big maps are 3 or 4 lanes with a few crossing options where you will run into the other players most likely. You can almost never flank in big games where ele's and isu's reighn. If flanking is a viable option you'd have a point. The su76's wont have enough time to kill it, any support will kill them before they kill the ele with all their bouncing. Or the support draws the fire of the su76's also bouncing their shots. The m36's wont fair better as the support will probably kill the m36,s before they finish off the ele. The isu is under more threat then elephants are. Esp if ram gets gutted as intended The panther has more then decent chance to pen frontaly. It has a decent chance to bounce isu or other at fire. Its lots faster. And its also getting an unneeded and undeserved acc buff. Making it an even greater threat. Now reduce isu ai range and it needs to expose itself to danger more often against supirior at fire power wich initself is already a bigger threat then allied at is to the elephant. It needs to have a decent chance to backoff if forced to be closer to the action. Not everything is about units in a vacuum. The faction the unit is in matters as well. Its probably more important. Coming back to hp left after 2 shot from ele and isu. If the support is anything other the a tank or at gun. Say shrecks zooks ptrs and piats. The shreck will have a far greater chance off succes. Higher pen higher damage vs less hp left. The zook and ptrs do less damage have less pen vs higher remaining hp plus higher armour of those mediums. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T-34 rework2 Dec 2020, 11:00 AM Jump back to quoted post2 Dec 2020, 10:36 AMSander93 You're describing the KV-1 here. Considering most sov stock units are early war or pre war maybe make the kv 1 stock and kick the t34/76 to doctrines. Lol In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback2 Dec 2020, 10:21 AM Jump back to quoted post2 Dec 2020, 08:16 AMVipper If having to switch ammo is bad thing lets nerf the Elefant and JT by also giving them AP/HE munition with 60 range. How maany shot does Elefant need to kill a medium tank and how many does the ISU? What is the probability of ATG or JP to penetrate an Elefant at range 60 frontally and what probability M36/SU-85 to do the same? Not really. I never said needing to swith ammo is a bad thing. It keeps the isu in check wich is good. If its ai round are in and you get your panthers close to it its gonna suffer. 234 far pen for the zis 286 far pen for the su85 at vet 3 vs 400 armour on the ele and 247 far pen vs 340 armour of the isu, you are the stats and number guy you can do the exact numbers but the pak will probably pen the isu more often then the zis will an ele. The jp does not belong in this comparison it has very high rof and low pen cuz its a beefy medium td. Axis have panthers allies have better stock heavy td,s wich get their asses kicked by ele and jagdt. After 2 shot a allied medium is left with 40 health after the ele hits it twice. If an isu hits twice the axis medium is left with 160 hp. I ask you wich medium has a better chance to survive if either isu and ele have any at support? As for not really... that your opnion and thats fine. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback2 Dec 2020, 05:54 AM Jump back to quoted post2 Dec 2020, 05:05 AMSully The ISU does not need to be compensated for finally receiving some long deserved nerfs. Said nerfs will barely affect players who are already properly supporting their ISU. You'll still be able to comfortably camp a VP and bleed enemy inf, and the rear armor only comes into play if you're caught with your pants down, which is more than fair. Ram is being nerfed out of the game just like the demo. This is a massive buff for any axis heavy/super heavy. Isu is getting 2 nerves excluding the massive indirect buff of the axis heavies. Isu is getting triple nerfed basicly just like the t70. The isu needs to swith ammo because of its range and dual role. Cant remember the time to switch but its a long time. And does less damage per shot then ele and has less armour If these nerfs are implemented the isu defenitly needs mobility buff in return if it gets 60 range on its ai needs to move in range of enemie superheavies to do its ai role. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] General Discussion29 Nov 2020, 17:48 PM Jump back to quoted post29 Nov 2020, 17:34 PMGiaA I don't think buffing them directly is a good idea. Mainline inf spam is already too prominent. Why not just remove sandbags from all mainlines. This would be a massive indirect buff for grens (particularly LMG grens) and it would make the early mid game a million times more interesting. The only ones that should keep them are cons. Or they need stock ai upgrades and normal nades like all other mainlines In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T-34 rework29 Nov 2020, 13:08 PM Jump back to quoted post29 Nov 2020, 12:33 PMSerrith Including the sidetech, an AEC will ring you up for 75 fuel while a puma is only 70. Yet the puma is superior across the board stat wise with exception of armor. Does that mean the AEC isn't cost effective? Does that mean the AEC should have its cost reduced or its stats buffed? I would hope you'd say no. The T-34 is statwise inferior across the board to the panzer 4 but thats separate from whether or not the tank is worth 90 fuel. It's combined anti tank and anti infantry are not worth less then 90 fuel. They used to be 80, but it was found they were too cost effective. The t34 is cost effective indeed. it wont be if you take away ram with nothing to show for it. Its price is not only about its ai or at. Ram is also part of that price. you cant just take that away without compensating it somewhere else. putting requirements on a suicide abilitie is the same as taking it away. it will see next to no use. even if you get it to vet 2 or vet 3 it still gets destroyed with ease even in mere seconds if unlucky. its to flimsy and lacking in at to be viable in the late game on its own. Its only viable use is to mass them and use 1 out the 3 you have to ram the target and have the other 2 or a off map finish the target. the off map is just supiroir because the other 2 t34's also wont survive mostly and might not be able to finish the target before they get destroyed or forced off. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback29 Nov 2020, 10:55 AM Jump back to quoted post29 Nov 2020, 07:51 AMmrgame2 thats the point though, to give a counter against ram. 192hp will need 2 shots. also sov player can use the bonus ram feature as a last ditch payoff in the heat of battle. rather than a planned assualt. A bonus feuture wich will cost you the tank worth 90 fuel and 300 mp with no garantee it will do anything other then get destroyed. It better be near indestructible/very very tiny target size during ram if it has special requirements such as vet or an hp threshhold to be able to ram. In: COH2 Balance