i just say the 10% 60td is needed nerf. now the nerf to brumbar armor makes it still 100% pen from 60 range at vet 60td, back to square 1.
does panther 100% pen at max range against allies heavy AI? now that needs a look aint it?
if vsl and ostt are too 'cheap' then increase the price, and not nerf their performance.
all 3 units are hit without compensation, suggesting Wehrboo is the strongest faction in live game! is that right?
60 range 100% pen on allied td's is because they all lack in armour 160 stock vs 240/290 and even higher in docs and kt on okw out of the gate, no ai whatsoever, no stock heavy tanks for usf and soviet.
Panthers can fight all armour are fast to dive and more durable to survive a dive, they have ai and a turret wich can clear out atguns together with their high durability and speed, and heavy crush etc they are not even close to allied td's.
The brum nerf was so td's stand a chance instead of none.
Entire soviet late game got nerfed, seems to suggest soviets where to strong don't it. And i never said soviet up axis op on this patch. And watching 2nd game of tootsy vs luvnest seems t70 with early buffs to t1 and penal ptrs do fine.
i argue because brumbar, vsl, ostt all got nerf bat. these units are holding wehrboo infantry and late games together, in 2v2 rank >1000.
if allies got similar nerfs, then i agree.
the proof in the video. bam.
Lol you missed the zis, t70, quad, t34, su85, conscript nerfs. Thats just soviets. Get your facts straight.
Stop the axis always everywhere every time up doctrine jeeezz
remember what i said about BD sherman getting a pass?
bam here you go. luvnest got his ass handled by BD sherman. and that is with the 'awesome' medium counter jp4 in his unit composition.
imagine if you are wehrboo player countering BD sherman...lol stug
in 2v2 rank 1000, zooks + bd sherman is a build.
back to my question, what's brumbar compensation?
when allies faction with armor + AI gets the pass?
Its not like he outmanuvered his opponent and also use heat shells on the pak now did he? He got behind the jadgpzr 4. So p4's getting behind su85 should not be able to win? He was able to get 3 shermans out and luvnest didnt have much at at that point.
You rant about usf getting a durable tank via doctrine as being op, but durable inf for ost via doctrine is okay and even a must....
Please just stop.
It is used alot of time and in certain maps more than others, and it depends on your lvl to see it or not see it much offen that doesn't mean it doesn't need a nerf, and its accuracy is actually fine especially with barrage, in addition to that its AOE is pretty big.
u should check Vipper reply if u want real numbers.
I did. Its more expensive then half units listed and doctrinal, wich isent mentioned. Has larger scatter but bigger aoe. Rof is also lower then most if not all. I could only find shot fired in relation to remaning hp, not rof that or i glanced over it somehow.
It also shows it cant one shot full hp squads. Again ifvits a braindead unit it would be build nearly every game at all levels of play, wich it isent. The standaard soviet mortar is more cost effevtive.
There are other things that need a look, the 120mm isent one atm.
Yes it does, however it doesnt show cost or popcap wich is higher then about half of the units of its type. Also that its the only doctrinal one of its type.
It cant one shot full hp squads as claimed. Dont fix what aint broken.
Its damage is more than amazing actually, it is just a braindead unit that can counter all indirect fire and support weapons so easily , and it can wipe any unit in just a few shots if not one shot only, it is similar to the American howitzer but with a retreat button.
I disagree.
If its a braindead unit you would see it every game, wich doesnt happen. I am not sure on the numbers but its damage is not amazing among mortars, its sounds on impact however, making it seem awsome. If it does one shot at all it massive rng roll. And that for a pop and ecpensive mortar.
There are plenty units abilities that can one shot far more easely then the 120mm can.
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