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Thread: Locking OKW Tiger behind all SWS is super unfair24 Jan 2020, 19:07 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Jan 2020, 03:17 AMDoomlord52 Any reason why? If they want to standardize the timings and cost, giving each faction a "T5" tech with unique costs to offset their other tech differences is pretty much the easier/best way to go about it. Implementation time, apparently. Jump back to quoted post23 Jan 2020, 22:26 PMblvckdream So you are in favour of deliberately unbalancing the game? Before OKW and Soviets needed the same amount of fuel to rush out Tiger and IS2. At least in that sense there was balance. We do not need requirements like full tech but 11 CP for heavies and adjusted AOE so they don't wipe as much and aren't as insanely OP overall. I'm in favour of fewer heavies. Making the heavy rush not viable for three more factions is an improvement in my book. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: COH2 winter balance mod - discussion24 Jan 2020, 17:42 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Jan 2020, 17:38 PMIncendiaryRounds I remember you said the section are fine right now, while this patch doesn't do anything to help the OTHER units in UKF while likely overbuffing sections again. It adds medics to UKF's HQ. That's a game changer for non-Section builds. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Locking OKW Tiger behind all SWS is super unfair23 Jan 2020, 22:18 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Jan 2020, 22:13 PMVipper Simply add a seperate tech for Super heavy tanks (maybe all doctrinal vehicles) That's apparently not an option. Jump back to quoted post23 Jan 2020, 22:12 PMblvckdream The fact that these tech barriers vary so much just means using tech requirements like "all tech buildings need to be built" impossible because some factions will get screwed over. I can't believe the balance team didn't think about this before they wrote this preview. I'll take uneven barriers over no barriers at all. That way only one faction keeps heavy rushing instead of four. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Locking OKW Tiger behind all SWS is super unfair23 Jan 2020, 22:07 PM The problem isn't OKW's tech barrier being too high, it's SOV's tech barrier being too low. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Locking OKW Tiger behind all SWS is super unfair23 Jan 2020, 21:58 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Jan 2020, 21:57 PMEsxile If all building are mandatory you'll have your T3 built anyway. Now I understood the point of all building tech is to not make Heavies a simple step forward after medium but a unit requiring extra cost before being available. I misunderstood. When you said 'put the Tiger behind T4', I assumed you meant just T4. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Locking OKW Tiger behind all SWS is super unfair23 Jan 2020, 21:47 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Jan 2020, 21:38 PMT.R. Stormjäger Remove the "needs all tech structures" aspect and replace with a simple 20fuel increase on all heavy tanks. 20 FU is pocket change. The OKW and USF tech changes are 300ish MP 40ish FU teching barriers, which is about the magnitude needed imo. The live setup is like sticking the OKW P4 in Mechanized: who'd get the Luchs when a 75 FU wait gets you a vehicle that dominates every light on the field? Jump back to quoted post23 Jan 2020, 21:46 PMEsxile Imo all tech structure is the way to go. Put the Ostheer Tiger behind T4 for 225 fuel. That biases the Ostheer roster against T3 builds. If you're locking Ost behind buildings, make it T3 and T4. That way you don't favour one teching path over the other. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Locking OKW Tiger behind all SWS is super unfair23 Jan 2020, 21:38 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Jan 2020, 21:23 PMblvckdream If this is the case they should have communicated this with the patch notes because otherwise these heavy tank changes make even less sense than they do now. IMO locking OKW Tiger behind all SWS would be game-breaking in terms of balance. Before rushing a Tiger cost OKW (BG+T4-10) and Soviets both 165 fuel (T2+3+4-20) + 230 for Tiger/IS2. At least then the timing was balanced. Now there would be a significant timing gap between the units that just can't be justified in any way. The idea is to create a teching barrier between mediums and heavies. The problem is Soviet's tech is structured differently and it's a much smaller gap. I can't really see what else they can do apart from making the KV-2 the rush-heavy and putting the IS-2 at CP14 with the Elefant and Jagdtiger. Crank up the cost of the heavies themselves, perhaps? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Locking OKW Tiger behind all SWS is super unfair23 Jan 2020, 21:18 PM Ostheer is almost entirely absent from the patch notes. I think it's safe to assume the bulk of Ostheer changes are in development and still to come. Locking the heavy generalist behind all buildings has been done to SOV, USF and OKW. It's a pretty minor barrier for SOV, but a meaningful teching gap for USF and OKW. I'd wager Ostheer'll get a similar restriction where they need both the T3 and T4 building up. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: fallschirmjager units are too broken imo23 Jan 2020, 20:19 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Jan 2020, 20:14 PMMazianni Falls shouldn't lose their cloak. I just think they need total squad DPS tuned down (fewer total FG-42s for sure) and given either more survivability (5-man unit is my shilling piece) and/or utility (retain cloak, retain faust, retain grenades, ambush) to make up for it and make them a less braindead unit than they are now. If their DPS isn't stupid high at all ranges, they can be outfought in a brute force scenario and are less useful for A-move pushing, but can stay deadly as a camo-ed ambush unit, which I feel is the exact thematic intention of this unit in the first place. The new patch removed the faust. That's all that was needed, really. They're OKW Commandos now. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: COH2 winter balance mod - discussion23 Jan 2020, 20:18 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Jan 2020, 20:17 PMSunTzu OST is missing from this pacht .. Where are your BUFFs? Balance Patches usually come in iterations. I'd assume the total absence of OST means a sizeable update is in the works. In: COH2 Gameplay