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That's completely wrong.
Soviet complete tech-> 10 T1 + 15 T2 + 80 T3 + 90 T4 + 10 AT grenade + 5 Molotov - 20 Starting fuel = 190 total
OKW complete tech -> 40 BG + 60 Mech + 135 Schwer + 15 medic + 15 repair - 10 starting fuel = 255 total
Yeah because manpower is the limiting factor in who can get a heavy tank earlier
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The idea is to create a teching barrier between mediums and heavies. The problem is Soviet's tech is structured differently and it's a much smaller gap.
I can't really see what else they can do apart from making the KV-2 the rush-heavy and putting the IS-2 at CP14 with the Elefant and Jagdtiger. Crank up the cost of the heavies themselves, perhaps?
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Yeah because manpower is the limiting factor in who can get a heavy tank earlier
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Simply add a seperate tech for Super heavy tanks (maybe all doctrinal vehicles)
The fact that these tech barriers vary so much just means using tech requirements like "all tech buildings need to be built" impossible because some factions will get screwed over. I can't believe the balance team didn't think about this before they wrote this preview.
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Yeah your right, IS2 price can be adjusted I guess
Manpower that allow you to get 2 more units on the field for the same tech, I'll say yes it is a factor to take in account.
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I'll take uneven barriers over no barriers at all. That way only one faction keeps heavy rushing instead of four.
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hw about removing the full tech and just increase CP ? they are back at the cp they were before and they came late already
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The issue is forcing all tech structures would be fine for all factions except Soviets because they have a cheap T1/T2. They would have to force Soviets to pay for all sidetech including 7-man upgrade(which should go back to 25 fuel from 20) to equal the cost the other faction would pay to tech all structures for a heavy tank. Soviets simply have the most streamlined tech tree at the moment and that allows them to rush the IS-2 too quickly.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Simply add a seperate tech for Super heavy tanks (maybe all doctrinal vehicles)
That's apparently not an option.
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And I suppose that also means couple of hundred of mp less for them too, right?
Because no other faction pays as much mp as soviets including tech and side costs together.
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Any reason why? If they want to standardize the timings and cost, giving each faction a "T5" tech with unique costs to offset their other tech differences is pretty much the easier/best way to go about it.
So you are in favour of deliberately unbalancing the game? Before OKW and Soviets needed the same amount of fuel to rush out Tiger and IS2. At least in that sense there was balance.
We do not need requirements like full tech but 11 CP for heavies and adjusted AOE so they don't wipe as much and aren't as insanely OP overall.
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Yeah because manpower is the limiting factor in who can get a heavy tank earlier
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yes It is, also you are over looking the fact the IS2 is crap, cant even go toe to toe with a panther, plus Its stuck behind crap commander choices.
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yes It is, also you are over looking the fact the IS2 is crap, cant even go toe to toe with a panther, plus Its stuck behind crap commander choices.
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