Strange how more people think the IS-2 is fine, yet that KT needs buffs.
It might look strange if you simply compared then 2 units, it might stop looking strange once you factor in that one has high tech cost and other does not have any tech cost, and the available counters to high armor available to each side.
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What's the formula for pen versus armour?
weapon penetration/armor of vehicle
for more you can look here, (hope everything is correct and simple to understand):
https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/231279/a-guide-to-d-p-s-basics |
Which will only increase the DPS which was already to high according the HTML 
0.621 * 5 * (1+5,5 = 6,5) * (1+ 1.375 * 10 = 23.75) = 479.334
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(0,04 + 3,15 – 0,04 – 0,75 = 2.4) + (1 + 5,5 = 6.5) * (0 + 0 + 0,04 + 0,75 + 1,375 = 2.165) = 19.269
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24.875
Which should be 16.034, is Cruzz still an active member around the fora?
According to Relic the DPS for the assault_pioneer_mp44_smg_mp is (0/10/20/30)
15.9/10.8/4.9/1.2
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Is there any real difference between more accuracy and less scatter?
Yes there is, accuracy increases the chance to score a "natural" hit, scatter decides how far the projectile will land if it misses. |
Vet 3 is -30% scatter next to -50% reload I think. Less scatter means higher chance for wipes per shot
M26 Pershing Heavy Tank
+30% Acceleration/Deceleration
+20% turret rotation,Crew will defend tank with Grenades
+20% accuracy,-50% reload |
Have you checked for criticals?
T-70 also always dealt 40 dmg and it was perfectly fine OHK-ing models up until 2016.
Stop being lazy check for yourself.
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Ostwind need to stop to deal good damage and we can compare its damage as a dot damage, it rarely kill models in one shot except if they are on the wrong side of a shotblocker.
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Ostwind can not kill a model with one shot no matter which side of shotblocker they are. It does 40 damage so that is simply incorrect.
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The Brums vet IS useful tho, against everything that ISN'T a TD. The Katy vet is useful when you want to blow some mu and deal less damage.
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My point is quite simple:
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Brummbars, however, you're not getting for durability. You get them for reliable anti-infantry firepower. ...
Since it seem the unit is to be redesign for its firepower, imo that should be reflected in the vet bonuses that should improve the gun or mobility and not the armor. |
No he hasn't, one tricks claim that the community devs have a "bias" against their faction every time it gets nerfed. Like the Brummbar has been OP for forever and arguably gotten 10x easier to use since they changed the Attack Ground 100% accuracy BS and gave it a larger AOE.
It could drive up bounce a fuck ton of shit thats suppose to counter it then oneshot squads. Only a completly bias moron would claim the Brummbar didn't need a nerf.
U trynna tell me all these faction one tricks are RIGHT 
Brumbar was a crappy over priced unit that no one used for years. It only started to see action when it was buffed in the JUNE 21st update (2016) and further on when it received more buffs and the T4 become easier to access.
Will simply have to wait and see how much action will see from now on. |
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You're the one who started this conversation by saying an anti-tank gun wasn't meant to counter assault guns.
Like StuGs.
PLS read again more carefully:
ATG are not the intended counter of Brumbar, the same way Pak are not the intended counter to KV-8s. It is the other way around both units counter ATG.
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Now if in your opinion ATGs are the intended counter vs Brumbar and KV-8, pls make present you arguments and/or a replay demonstrating the "intended" use of ATG as to counter these vehicles.
Else pls stop derailing this thread and move on. |
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