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The LEFH is the same for OST ...
In your opinion is Lefh only broken or is the ML20 similarly broken?
In your opinion what are the differences between ML20 and LeFH? |
Volks are slightly less durable.
Utility is simaler
Dps is much better, non doc stg invalidates cons close range advantidge. Pssh,s correct that.
Volk can build sanbags, deney cover, snare just like cons. Unlike cons the can salvage wiped team weapons, deneying recrewing 100% and ganing recourses. They can self heal with vet at no extra cost. They have no side tech wich delays techup, they just get all of their stuff as you techup. And ofcourse have a non doc ai no brainer upgrade.
Merge and oorah dont make up for lacking ai upgrade an poor weapons or side tech and doctrines exclusives for cons to give basic utilities or abilities.
Eather volks cost need to go up, but then tommies and rifles are to cheap by comparison. Or cons cost must go down. Imo they have no busniss costing the same as grens and only 10 mp less then volks while both stomp them in too the ground.
Conscripts vs grenadier where some of the best balanced much ups and Conscript got buffed since then, they should be fine.
Conscripts vs Volks is another story mainly because of the ST44 imo. |
For the sake of example, 50% of 1 is still less then 40% of 2.
Where 1 is cons firepower and 2 is whatever any other squad, say grens.
Highest vet argument is completely irrelevant if you have no stock access to weapon upgrades and worst base weapon in game.
PLS once more stop quoting me if you what a you are posting is irrelevant to what you have quote from my post.
I did not present any argument I provided facts. PLS STOP your crusade of trying to prove me, it is getting ridiculous when you questioning facts. |
I've never paid atention to these stats.
So you have your opinion regardless of stats?
People claim IS2 is weaker or stronger than the Tiger, but when the site was still up I was certain they had about the same stats in scatter and armor.
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it seems you do. IS-2 has allot more armor than Tiger.
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Why wouldn't su76 or T3485 to do it from rear side at least?
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SU-75 chance to penetrate rear armor of brumbar vet 2
range 60-0 chance 100%
T-34/85 chance to penetrate rear armor of brumbar vet 2
range 40 chance 88% range 20 chance 100% range 0 chance 100% |
How about the statistic that a t34/sherman/cromwell ALL had less than a 50% chance of penetrating the old vet 2 brumbarr AT POINT BLANK RANGE (t34 was actually less than 50% against the vanilla brum too). Yes you should always be trying to flank, but point blank range less than 50%? The unit was nowhere near expensive enough to justify that.
If you are going to use a medium vs Brumbar try flanking chance of T-34/76 vs rear/side armor VET 2 Brumbar:
range 40 60% range 20 73% range 0 88%.
For comparison:
Chance of PzIV flanking a KV-1
range 40 66% range 20 69% range 0 75%
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I had no problem with brumbar being able to wipe out AT guns easily, you just had to find a reliable counter.
But before the nerf, no matter what you had at hand, it wasn't so much about having the right counter against a brumbar, but watching all your shots getting deflected or not penetrating.
Sometimes I even wondered if it was a bug, the shells just magically bounced, shots after shots.
Chance for SU-85 vet 2 to penetrate a vet 2 Brumabr before the patch was:
Range 60 89%, range 30 93%, range 0 98%.
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Chance for M36 vet 3 to penetrate a vet 2 Brumbar before the patch was:
Range 60 89%, range 30 98%, range 0 100%.
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Chance for M36 to penetrate a vet 2 Brumbar using AP round:
Range 60 78%, range 30 98%, range 0 94%. |
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Recent changes to Brumbar.
JUNE 21st BALANCE UPDATE
"Brummbar
Cost decreased from 470 manpower and 160 fuel to 420 manpower and 150 fuel
Reload standardized from 7.5/9 seconds to 8.25.
AOE mid modifer from 0.15 to 0.3
Medium crush changed to Heavy Crush.
Veterancy requirements from 2740/5480/10960 to 2040/4080/8160
Added hold fire"
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Update: 17th of May 2018
Brummbar
The Brummbar is having its AOE adjusted to reduce its ability to wipe out full health units on the first shot, but still able to deal significant damage on misses.
• AOE distance changed from 1.25/2.5/3.75 to 0.625/1.25/6; applies to both auto-attack and bunker-buster
• AOE damage changed from 1/0.3/0.05 to 1/0.35/0.2; applies to both auto-attack and bunker-buster
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November 22
Brumbar
-Armour reduced to 240 from 260
-Veterancy 2 armour bonus from 1.3 to 1.2
-This equates to 288 armour when vetted as opposed to 320
-Bunker Buster Barrage second and third shot scatter distance from 2.5 to 9
-Bunker Buster second and third shot scatter from 6 to 10
-Brumbar Range from 40 to 35 |
Wiping the unit isn't effective enough now?
Damn, what you dudes expect axis units to do?
KV-8 was nerfed so many times it actually is being buffed now.
Same for KV-2 just recently, same for Dozer, same for croc.
AVRE does its job and it actually needs to get very close aka expose itself, Brummbar could just barrage ATG from outside LOS, its also very slow compared to brummbar and much more expensive.
Scott puts a pressure, brummbar wipes stuff.
You're grasping at straws here.
If a unit is op, it gets the stick.
If there is no reason not to use the unit and no actual downside to it and its not mainline infantry, there is an issue with it and that issue most certainly isn't alternatives being too weak(as it was a case very frequently over the years in soviet army).
KV-8 has not been nerfed "so many times" it has not been nerfed in years. It actually got a buff in DBP and was changed to require T4 as the majority of call in tanks. |
So how do you even imagine that?
Defensive infantry that needs to close in?
Or defensive infantry with ability that reduces damage to the point, where long range squads with LMGs can't deal with it, because if it can't do that, its not defensive by definition, since it can't defend the area its supposed to?
Starting to see how stupid your idea sounds?
You can have short range infantry OR defensive infantry - you can't have both and grens, tommies and even Osttruppen(you know, the actual defensive infantry) are perfect example of that.
PLS STOP the personal insults.
Have a nice day. |
This won't work.
I will ignore your "defensive" infantry and will focus-fire your "offensive" glass canons.
Well one need to test it. |
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