Profile of Vipper

After some testing

ELITE ARMOUR DOCTRINE 1.8

sd.kfz. 221 Scout car (CP 0)
requires set up truck cost 210/20 4 pop 100/10 to 223
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Upgrades FuG 12 radio set cost 100 MP/10 FU
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221-223 seem more of "noob trap" than anything else. Unit come out too late to counter sniper m3 or UC WC while the upgrade also cost fuels. As resources bonus goes the unit cost 310/30 and 4 pop while it provides the same resources as Opel truck minus the pop. That mean that even if one places on fuel for the extra +7 fuel one will have to wait more than 4 minutes before the unit can pay back it's fuel cost, plus one will pay 4 MP every minute that is set up.

Suggestions:
Change requirement to truck being built not set, track being set up is make the timing map dependent. Unit should serve as soft counter to Sniper and m3, by the time it arrive in can easily be countered by PTRS.

The upgrade cost manpower and fuel is inconstant since all upgrade in game cost MU, it also increase the time one start gaining resources making the vehicle too expensive as investment.
(I was also told that when I suggested that 221 is reintroduced for Ostheer and 222 become an upgrade or a separate vehicle)


One could also change the mechanics:
Make it work more like normal cashes, once set up the unit could become stationary unable to move thus easier to counter, but removing the Pop penalty.
Or
make work more like the Vamp truck stealing (siphon) enemy resources for duration.

"Signal array" should not be a passive ability it should be one that is activated with a limited duration. One could even change the mini map information that overlap with the kubel's ability with the soviet "radio intercept" ability again with a limited duration.

Imo med kit drop should be removed, vehicles delivering med kit to the front line should be removed from all units since it a powerful ability.


Emergency repairs (CP 4)
15(?) sec duration 35 mu cost
restores 300 health over 10 seconds after a 3-second delay.
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Either patch notes (think patch notes)or in-game description seem to incorrect since it described as lasting 15 secs. A decent ability.


Panzer commanders (CP 5)
Available for PzIV, Panther, King tiger , replaces pintal HMG
Cost 30

Suggestions:
The barrage is simply way too powerful and cost efficient, it could simply be removed or replaced by mortar barrage.

In the case of KT could both pintal and commander become available?

Sight bonuses can be problematic when stuck with veterancy bonuses.


High Explosive Anti Tank (HEAT) Shell (CP 7)
Cost 45

SturmTiger (CP 11)
cost 620/180 pop 18. mutually exclusive with King Tiger
The unit seem too expensive for 180 and pop 18 NahW grenade can not be used while reloading.


Suggestions:
Consider reducing pop to 16 and maybe full to 160.
Consider increasing armor from 220/110 maybe decreasing HP and giving damage reduction.

Imo NaHW should be able to be fired while reloading, it could also become available from vet 0 and could scale with veterancy. One could even redesign the ability to work more like real life exploding around the vehicle as an cqc AI weapon.

I would also consider replacing the suppression affect with a "shell shock" affect momentarily stunning units and leaving a long lasting effect like reduced accuracy and/or speed.
Critical vs vehicles could include injured driver/gunner.

Consider removing the manual reload making the unit more vulnerable once it has fired.

In my opinion it should get more utility doing extra damage to structures maybe even becoming available to bypass some of the damage reduction from brace. The unit could become far more attractive as doctrinal counter to structures especially since the barrage available from panzer commanders is already effective against structures.

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Only when ground attack is used. Without ground attack it´s not really accurate enough to do well, basically like a mini Brummbär.

The barrage is pretty accurate though, but obviously can´t be fired on the move.

Actually that is incorrect, the scott can fire both HE and smoke barrage on the move (probably the only unit that can do that).

Except kinetic energy isn't really relevant for comparing the effects of mass and velocity in this context. Neither are shaped charges.

The "velocity guns" can be equated to KEPs, but 152mm and 122mm HE rounds can't really be grouped into either category. Increased velocity means a lot more energy, but thats only really going to increase penetration. While I suppose that does fall under destructive power, more mass means more explosive filler. For rounds this big, that means both more penetration (negligible, I guess), and more shock (I'd count that as damage) to the vehicle if it doesn't penetrate, and more straight up damage if it does. That's why I tried not to exclusively refer to mass, but also to payload (because that's what I think we're actually trying to imply when we say mass).

I get that the bolded part isn't really true given the proportionalities, but that's only if you remove my words from their context. He mentioned an example that used an absurd velocity to yield an absurd result, and that statement was only meant to imply that you could do the same for mass (use an absurd mass to yield an absurd result).

It has less to do with gun and more do with munition. Since gun usually can fire different types of munitions.

If the munition rely in kinetic energy to destroy enemy tank than velocity is a key component in its energy.

If the munition rely on chemical energy one could either for as you say "high payload" (with its drawbacks) or for shaped explosion. When it come to AT weapons most manufacturers choose shaped charges. (And that is why reactive armor for tanks has been developed)

Once more the guns used by IS-2, KV-2 and ISU-152 where artillery pieces.

Overall, I think you're sticking too close to principles that really aren't applicable to the actual points of discussion.

I am simply explaining the basics about guns and since I have served in an artillery unit I am in position to know something about it.

After some testing :

Overwatch Doctrine

Early warning system (CP 0)
Access to Goliath cost 100 mu
Units still is weird can be devastating to useless.

Suggestions:
Reduce lethality for utility.
Goliath should do more damage to all structures and support weapons and should less affected by brace.
Goliath should be more durable and have low target priority from enemy squads so that players actually target it.

Goliath should be able kill up 2 models per squad (do damage other entities) but inflict "shell shock" critical reducing accuracy of affected squad for 30 secs (or until fully healed) or causes suppression similar to SturmTiger.

SWS truck give information in the mini map in range 70
Ability still weird since aggressive truck placing value has been reduced.

Suggestions:
Change the ability from passive to active also increasing vision similar to Soviet tracking. Or replace ability with reckon plane flying over the truck.

Warning flares on capture points
A decent ability

Jaeger Light Infantry Reckon Squad (CP 1)
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Unit too early to spawn for ambient buildings since it can add instant reinforcement on some occasions and while having zero shock value compared to other infiltration units. In unit does not mix well with "For the Further Land!". When combined with FTFL the unit moves too fast when using sprint while the target size is way too small (0.3 target size at vet 5).

Suggestions:
Either completely remove infiltration or allow 2 way of entering the game. First build-able from HQ (CP 1-0) at normal price second as an infiltration units AT CP 2 with premium and with G43 so it can continue having the utility of countering enemy snipers.

Do a veterancy overhaul focusing on utility and not in received accuracy, medic kit should become passive. Maybe allow units to prioritize snipers so that it can used to set ambush vs snipers.

Remove sprint, it does not mix with FTFL and it allows unit to kite enemy infantry. Give the unit a grenade (Blendkörper? that should also cause critical to vehicles) so it can delay advancing infantry.

Booby traps
Suggestions:
Remove ability from Obersoldaten (no reason to have it).
All type of booby traps change the damage to DOT allow it used in non connected neutral territory.

For the Further Land! (CP 2)
Duration 30 secs cost 50 MU
-35% received accuracy, +15% speed to infantry in friendly territory

leFH 18 Artillery (CP 8)
cost 400/50 pop 15
Vet bonuses do not seem to in the right direction, vet 4 too strong vet 5 is useless.

Suggestions:
Veterancy vet 4 and vet 5 should give the unit auto repair and auto heal abilities.


Sector Assault (CP 10)
Cost 250 MU
First "recon" flight allow QUAD to shoot down the planes before they even does anything completely nullifying the ability. On the Other hand the ability is too powerful if there is no AA available.

Suggestions:
Reduce MU cost and effectiveness of the ability.

I push a lot with IS2. I use it many times. Sometimes i can change a match from allmost defeat to a win. But I hardlly get vet 1, only a few times vet 2, and only about 3 times vet 3 during those years of playing...

IS-2 is facing Panther that have range 50.

Tiger starts with range 45 and face SU-85/M-36/FF with range 60.

You should be asking the same about the Tiger.