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Thread: Ranger, BAR's or Tompsons?13 Dec 2018, 22:23 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2018, 21:31 PMSkysTheLimit Right I just wasn't sure if Tommys got overridden when merged with other slot weapons since they cant be dropped. Bar does not override Thompson. Ranger +1 BAR (or other weapon) +4 Thompson will roll to drop when they lose the entity carrying the weapon Ranger +3 BAR will roll to drop a bar when they lose their are bellow 3 entities (as far as I can remember) In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Ranger, BAR's or Tompsons?13 Dec 2018, 21:17 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2018, 20:42 PMtightrope No one has even mentioned the weapon drop potential is super high when you have 3 bars equipped. well actually. Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2018, 18:13 PMVipper ... Keep in mind Ranger will start dropping weapons if they have all slots taken after losing 2 models. Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2018, 20:52 PMSkysTheLimit I don't like putting even 1 BAR on Tommy rangers for that reason. Am I wrong or do the tommys ovverride the BAR when one guy dies? So everytime you lose the BAR carrier it rolls the drop chance we are probably saying the same thing but I will say a bit different: If a squad has no weapons slot left there will be a a chance to drop a weapon each time all other member already have a weapon equipped. 3 Bar rangers will have a chance of dropping weapons when they are down to 3 entities. (as far as i can remember) In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: USF players, how are you finding the new Tech Revamp?13 Dec 2018, 21:11 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2018, 20:46 PMSkysTheLimit Oh I missed that in the notes, I like that change a lot. Do you agree about the airborne drop being merged? You are welcomed. Well they are a bit weird and rather expensive compared to other similar abilities like the UKF (which is probably OP) or the Osttruppen one and rather close to paratroopers ATG drop while inferior. Not sure what a good solution would be. We probably have to see how good USF currently are. "Air Resupply Operation -Cost from 150 munitions to 100 manpower and 75 munitions -Vickers HMG replaced by M1 81mm Mortar; same version used by the USF." In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: USF players, how are you finding the new Tech Revamp?13 Dec 2018, 20:41 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2018, 20:36 PMSkysTheLimit I like airborne more now. Pathfinders at cp 0 is great, helps you avoid/flank MG42s. The weapons probably should be 1 commander ability kinda like the brit drop that gives 6lber and Vickers. That said I always put down a muni cache or 2 when I go airborne and I think anybody picking that commander probably should too. Plan ahead for that need UKF ability has been changed provides a mortar and an ATG (and faster movement reinforcement and a medic kit) In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Wer Fragmentation bombs13 Dec 2018, 18:44 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2018, 18:33 PMLatch They fall far too fast! You don't have anytime at all to move your AT guns before the bombs hit and wipe them Now test the IL-2 bombing run. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ranger, BAR's or Tompsons?13 Dec 2018, 18:43 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2018, 18:25 PMTobis Nah I get you, it's not really a question with a right answer. More about playstyle and preference. Actually I usually get Thompson and BAR and pick it up with another squad when they vetted and drop it Play-style preference and map In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Ranger, BAR's or Tompsons?13 Dec 2018, 18:24 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2018, 18:20 PMTobis In my experience riflemen are tanky enough lategame, I'd rather have something that can wipe squads. Longrange units aren't designed to wipe. Better to have riflemen that are pretty good at all ranges while the rangers focus on close-mid where they are wipe machines. The thompsons are also good up to mid range, they have more dps (discounting focus shots) up until range 20. It is a bit map dependent of course. Thompson is a rather broken weapons since it too good even at mid range as you say. I simply pointed out that 3 BAR rangers are very good long range (better than lmg paras) and with the damage reduction they come with, they should bleed very little. I agree about the squad wipe potential of Thompson wielding infantry (and Ppsh shocks as it seems after the patch). In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Ranger, BAR's or Tompsons?13 Dec 2018, 18:14 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2018, 18:13 PMflyingpancake Thank you for the detailed breakdown, does the same go for the paratroopers? Glad that I could help. They use the same Thompson and M1A1 In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Ranger, BAR's or Tompsons?13 Dec 2018, 18:13 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2018, 17:41 PMTobis Rather have the thompson. Why even get rangers if you will bar them up like any other squad. Better to have one of the best squads in the game at close-mid range. Well if one wants to uses Rangers long range they combine excellent defensive properties and allot of fire power with 3 bars. 0.8 target size (to 0.57 vet 3), 0.9 damage reduction and with 3 bars around 30 DPS at range 35. For comparison Lmg paras have around 25.2 DPS and that is without counting the extra DPS from BARS scattered shots. Ranger +3 BARs should are probably better than LMGs paras. Keep in mind Ranger will start dropping weapons if they have all slots taken after losing 2 models. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Ranger, BAR's or Tompsons?13 Dec 2018, 17:36 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2018, 17:25 PMflyingpancake I have been using the Rangers a lot lately with good effect and i have some questions about them. My question is, what is better? A Ranger squad with 3 BAR's or a ranger squad with Tompsons? Ignoring the ammo cost. Are the BAR's even a good upgrade over the Ranger 1m Carbines? Bar is superior to M1A1 at all ranges. Between the Thompson and BAR, BAR becomes better above 20 range. It mostly comes down to play stay. I also have to point out that one can equip both Thompson and 1 bar. In: COH2 Gameplay