Profile of Vipper

Nothing wrong with my reading ability.......
Just because some "genius" edits a Wiki page and makes the ridiculous claim that 91 vehicles is "mass produced" doesn't mean people should mindlessly parrot it.
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PLS do not make unsupported accusation of "edits" on wiki page.

Here is the link to the wiki page and here is the quote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elefant

"Conclusions

The Ferdinand/Elefant may have been the most successful mass produced tank destroyer employed during the war in kills per loss[citation needed], reaching an average claimed ratio of approximately 10:1. During the Battle of Kursk, sPzJgrAbt 653 claimed to have knocked out 320 enemy tanks, for the loss of 13 Ferdinands.[10] This impressive average ratio was due to its superior firepower and protection, which gave it an enormous advantage when used in head-on combat or a static defensive role (however note that claimed tank kills are well-proven to invariably greatly exceed actual kills, and different organizations have different standards of defining a 'kill'). However, poor mobility and mechanical unreliability greatly diminished its operational capability.

The Elefant and Nashorn were both superseded by the Jagdpanther. All three vehicles mounted the same gun, with only some minor differences between them. The Jagdpanther—a true jagdpanzer—was a successor to the other two, combining acceptable mobility and good, sloped armour while retaining the excellent gun, mostly solving the reliability, mobility, and/or protection problems that the earlier vehicles had. "

There has been no edit it is wikipedia which talk about mass production and not me , so pls stop defaming other forum members by accusing them of "editing" quotes.

the elefant/Ferdinand had been the product of a "mistake" (it was never really planned to exist in the first place), and had been made with extreme flaws that were never fixed. The vast majority of kills have been made during the battle of Kursk, taking down around between 200 and 300 tanks (vast majority being the T-34/76), and essentially all of the losses were due to mines and mechanical breakdowns (around 10-15 elefants damaged). having a massive anti tank gun and extreme frontal armor (200mm) basically ensured that it would hit first, and no hits could really harm it

but, "most successful mass produced TD" is a completely moronic term used in the context, because the elefant was not successful at all beyond in paper. it has theoretically gotten up to 320 tank kills, but this number "could" be inflated. If it wasn't, the tank had been riddled with problems that hindered it extremely (it would catch fire when driving up small slopes, endless transmission and engine problems, etc). It was NOT mass produced/limited numbers (all production numbers are converted from already existing tank hulls), it's relevance has gone down significantly after the battle of kursk (it was used to the end of the war, but it wasn't an effective TD), and the list goes on

in a vacuum (and in the game), the elefant is a very good vehicle. But in reality, it was probably more trouble than it was worth. "The most successful" axis tank destroyer, or tank in general, was more the stug, because it's war impact and effectiveness (for its cost) was significantly higher than most of these big "terror" machines
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You will have to take up with the sites that actually use the term. Elefant it did have one of the best kill ratios.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elefant

"The Ferdinand/Elefant may have been the most successful mass produced tank destroyer employed during the war in kills per loss[citation needed], reaching an average claimed ratio of approximately 10:1. During the Battle of Kursk, sPzJgrAbt 653 claimed to have knocked out 320 enemy tanks, for the loss of 13 Ferdinands.[10] This impressive average ratio was due to its superior firepower and protection, which gave it an enormous advantage when used in head-on combat or a static defensive role (however note that claimed tank kills are well-proven to invariably greatly exceed actual kills, and different organizations have different standards of defining a 'kill'). However, poor mobility and mechanical unreliability greatly diminished its operational capability."

https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/article/weapons-the-elefant-tank-destroyer/

"Limited by poor mobility and being underpowered, the Ferdinand-Elefant was plagued by mechanical issues throughout its career; however, the heavy tank destroyer may have been the most successful employed given that it had an estimated kill ratio of 10 kills to every one vehicle lost. Because of this, the Ferdinand-Elefant had a significant influence on the outcome of most armored clashes in which it was engaged"

https://tankhistoria.com/wwii/elefant/

"And how did it do in that new role? Well, quite fantastically.

With only 90 to begin with, Elefants claimed an enormous number of enemy tanks, guns, trucks and,"

Jagd/Ele never made a significant impact on the war except further straining german logistics attempting to construct, repair and upgrade them (Ferdinand>Elefant)
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You are simply wrong.
Elefant was the most successful mass produced TD in kill ratio with around 10:1 score.

...Again, Tightrope warned that KT with commander and spearhead would be broken, a couple of patches before the last time and time again...

You are aware that tightrope is member of the mod team right?

Which years and metas are you specifically referring to?

Penal buffed started at JUNE 21st 2016 and Penal remained completely broken for 6 months until their flamer where removed.

Conscripts received buffs at:
DECEMBER 19th 2017
June 14th 2019
September 2019

They also received bonus to their weapons upgrades (SVT/PPSh/PTRS)

While Penal received their latest buffs on February 26th 2021

Imo the power creep is obvious.

In the end of day with the current design either Penal or conscripts will be a more cost efficient option and people will simply build one or the other.