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Thread: since we are adding prototype tanks in game27 Sep 2022, 16:41 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Sep 2022, 16:25 PMVermillion_Hawk I didn't say I thought the Black Prince was a WW2 tank, I said I couldn't care less about its inclusion in a game which already has a fantasy interpretation of the Nazi Wehrmacht. Get it right. Well it seem to me that what you are saying is you have no problem with the Black prince being added for the allies but you would have one if the Mouse tank was introduced for the axis. Pls try to move beyond axis and allies since this not an issue of sides but an issue of introducing prototype units to the game. In: Lobby
Thread: since we are adding prototype tanks in game25 Sep 2022, 09:42 AM Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2022, 09:26 AMMr Carmine I already said i dont mind if they picked a different model off the ones you mentioned before. You know that saw combat. Just the black prince sounds cool and i understand why they choose it. But you may have missed that part. Axis are already bordering on prototype units with for example the st but i never was against its inclusion even stock. There is not much difference here between them in numbers build and nr off actions. There never was this level off outrage over other units before. The pershing got some outrage for not fitting in the faction design in coh2. Now its about a prototype. None of them complained about the over representation of axis heavies, wich they should do if their logic is consistant. I am 100% sure that most who fanaticaly dont want the bp added will do a 180° if it was a german prototype. Yes brits have heavies, there just not played much for a reason. So you dont see their heavies much iff at all. And its mostly just the comet. And some crocodile use. Axis heavies are more viable and available then most allied heavies. They always have them and even spam them in big games. They mostly have some small drawbacks opposed to major strengths. Therin lies the problem. It seems to me that you are complaining about balance in COH3 based on balance in COH2... "Therin lies the problem." But let keep that you do not necessarily want to the BP to be in game but " they picked a different model off the ones you mentioned before." In: Lobby
Thread: since we are adding prototype tanks in game25 Sep 2022, 07:44 AM Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2022, 13:56 PMMr Carmine ... This imo all boils down to only axis can have wunder waffen and big guns. Allies cant period. Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2022, 20:37 PMMr Carmine ... Coh2 is oversaturatted with axis heavies and superheavies as it is. I fear it will happen again but i dont want this in coh3 again. ... This not about allies or axis is about prototype units being introduced in the game. As for for the UKF they do get premium tank and "Big guns" including Comet/Churchill, 25p, 17p as stock and Crocs/AVRE as doctrinal. Now can we get past the allied/axis "grass is greener on the the side of the fence" mentality? Because it seem that what saying is that BP is ok because it is an allied unit but it would be really "bad" if it was a German unit. In: Lobby
Thread: since we are adding prototype tanks in game24 Sep 2022, 12:18 PM I am not sure why people keep repeating the number of axis vehicles produced. This thread is not really about axis or allied vehicles but about introducing vehicle that never so action or not. The Black Prince never saw action and even if it had it would be a bad tank. If one wanted to make a Churchill with a bigger "bang" one could introduce any of the version that actually produced like the one with 75mm gun or the 95mm howizter In: Lobby
Thread: since we are adding prototype tanks in game21 Sep 2022, 18:20 PM What seems amusing is the approach some people have about how "their side" has gotten the sort end of the stick. So lets seem a number of allied vehicles used that are part of Coh2: Soviet M5 450 KV-2 210 KV-8 137 USF M26 200 Imo this thread is about the use of "fictional" vehicles and not about which side of the fence is greener or balance. In: Lobby
Thread: PPSh-41 assault pack21 Sep 2022, 09:14 AM Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2022, 08:19 AMKatukov this isn't exactly an issue of the frag grenade being shitty, but rather "why do the Germans get a quick throwing, standard grenade range molotov, against low suppression/small firing arc machine guns?" or in other word why the grass greener on the other side of the fence. Why is that MP-40 VG will lose 20%/40% of the close DPS when they lose their first 2 entity while the ppsh conscripts will only lose 7%/14%? Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2022, 08:19 AMKatukov you trade DoT for instant burst, which is completely fitting for a squad that will be up in the enemy's face (and grenades still do reasonably good even vs garrisons, if you are close enough to throw an incendiary, you might as well dance around the building) Isn't ourah more fitting for an SMG troops that allow them to get faster in the face of the enemy. Would you rather have MP-40 VG having sprint and keep their incendiary grenades? Mp-40 VG are simply not op and neither are PPsh conscripts UP. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The COH2 Ability Guide Mark 2.018 Sep 2022, 00:05 AM ostheer forward supply station aura is missing. In: Guides
Thread: PPSh-41 assault pack15 Sep 2022, 11:12 AM Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2022, 09:22 AMCrecer13 The point is that PPSh-41s obviously don't cost 2 CP, they don't become quasi-elite infantry (on which the Soviet faction depends) that also comes at 2 CP, it doesn't give them strong bonuses at 2CP. Actually PPsh has received multiple buffs and if it does not feel like "giving them strong bonuses" that has do with power creep. It even used to be CP 3. Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2022, 09:22 AMCrecer13 It is worth thinking about changing the ability, it clearly does not deserve a whole ability slot from the commander. It can give PPSh-41 as a non-doctrinal alternative and replace PPSh-41 with DP-27. LMG(smg) for conscript would be bad for a number reason: Conscripts are already a very cost efficient unit, any more buff and one will not see Penal again. Concentrate DPS on unit with high entity count give the advantage of being able to fight for long time with little DPS drop. Combination of abilities like sand bags and ourh with lmg would make conscript even stronger. It would mess the dynamic design of relative positioning of fight since both side would prefer static firefight in cover. The only change imo need are separating the two abilities (goes for camo/sprint also) and change the ability to provide 6 PPsh while adjusting DPS. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: PPSh-41 assault pack15 Sep 2022, 09:13 AM Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2022, 08:28 AMCrecer13 Perhaps this is a meaningless topic because there will be no more patches. But lately I've been playing a lot with the Conscript PPSh-41 assault pack. And... it's a very strange ability. I compare it with the MP-40 from the Fire Storm doctrine and this is clearly not in favor of the PPSh-41. Well different factions work differently. Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2022, 08:28 AMCrecer13 It comes at 2 CP as opposed to 0 CP, Conscripts are designed not to have have weapon upgrades Vg are designed to have ST44 thus the difference in CP. At CP 2 MP-40 would simply be useless. Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2022, 08:28 AMCrecer13 it doesn't give the frag grenade that the Conscripts need. The frag grenade is actually a nerf for VG who would be OP having both smoke grenade amd flame grenade since they would be to deal with any hmg in garrison. Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2022, 08:28 AMCrecer13 But it gives a senseless "get down" ability, which is appropriate for the Guard with long-range fire but not for close combat PPSh-41. Hit the ground is not related to PPSh it an ability available to all conscripts regardless if they are upgraded or not similar to camo/sprint for Ostheer. In addition the bonus are different for Guards and conscripts. The used to be to separate abilities that got merged into one but you are right they are a weird mix and they should had not be merge in the first place. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Design: Ballistic weapons13 Sep 2022, 15:49 PM Another issue of ballistic weapon that could seem improvement is collision world objects. In COH2 certain ballistic weapon seem more prone of exploding even when hitting minor world object like bushes and wire fences. Maybe one could create different level of "world piercing" properties for this weapons to better adjust collision. In: COH3 Central