A single ZiS can barrage a HMG from a longer range than the canister shot, whilst being outside of the HMGs firing arc, and if the ZiS tried to do the same at the same range as the canister shot the scatter would be more precise and thus more likely to decrew.
M-42 (with 50 range HE rounds) was quite capable of killing or forcing a retreat on a hmg regardless of cover/garrison.
You can only counter a HMG if you have atleast two M42s, otherwise the damage of the canister shot is slow to stack up and you can easily reposition, if not outright kill the single M42 because your HMG has greater DPS than it.
One is quite enough. HMG has a range of 45 the M-42 used out ranged the HMG and as long it had vision it would defeat a HMG without taking any damage.
It seem to me that you have little experience being on the receiving end of the 50 range canister shots and you are wrong about the DPS.
its incredibly sad that like 5% of soviet players went for making like six of them and decimating completely braindead axis players (85% of the team mode population) because they walk into 5 M-42s on shrapnel mode
M-42 with 50 range canister shot was completely broken since it was able to counter HMGs with impunity faster than mortars, could provide AI and AT.
they nerfed the m42 to complete irrelevancy almost immediately, but never bothered to nerf spotting scopes or spotting scopes + elefant (because the """nerf""" of not letting the elefant equip spotting scopes is not a nerf at all)
1) M-42 was in this broken state from December until June so it was not nerfed "almost immediately"
2) There is no relevance between the M-42 and spotting scopes.
3) spotting scopes have received several nerf including:
reduced bonus for 222 and 251 and a delay before it can be activated.
Vipper I'm sure you know this already so I don't know why you're making it a point to specifically mention it, but sometimes jokes come at the expense of other people. Especially when you're making a joke *about* that person. Would you believe it?
One post might count as (a not so funny) joke.
Two posts with no response, the joke start to fade
Tree posts with no response and it stops being funny
Four posts and now it is the realm of a personal attack.
Well I waited 4 post before I even responded and at least, I try to post something relevant to the thread, so I am not sure why you are quoting me and not donofsandiego.
Vipper, you can't facts and logic someone out of making a joke. I did it because I wanted to, not because I scientifically deduced that the thread required comedic input at 9 October 2022, 23:34.
Only you seem to be making more "jokes" (that are less funny and more insulting toward a specific person) than any meaningful contribution to the actual thread.
He already told you what he meant two different times.
User Hannibal is quite good ta expressing his opinion and does not really need you to advocate for him. On the other hand if you have your own personal opinion on the matter feel free to share it.
When you say things like this Vipper I have a hard time discerning whether you are just a very convincing troll or if you just have the incredible skill of always missing the point.
Then, I suggest that you clarify what, in your opinion, is the point instead of making ad hominem arguements.
Glad that you agree.
I'd probably assume that partisans generally could see a reinforcement cost buff. It's not worth bringing back Schreck blobs, especially not camouflaged ones, but just by gut feeling I don't think that 2 MP less will bring them back that heavily. It's very easy to get a Partisan squad wiped due to their low EHP and model count, an occasional wipe will likely offset the reduced bleed in MP.
The majority of Smg troops should have a reinforcement discount and large LMG troops might need a penalty.
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