It wasn't saying it's average. I was talking about its old "average gun", which you brought up in the post I was quoting
It is pretty simply so I am not sure why you are confused.
When SU-85 was average one could argue that it could follow the design of time and have a secondary role as reckon especially since it was available with T-70. Once it become a good TD and the faction designed change it no longer has reason to have a secondary role.
I do not want to talk generally about the su85 performance, I think it's fine. I responded to something that you mentioned
If you do not want to generally speak about SU-85 I would suggest not to ask me it is OP on not.
I'm aware of which ability is which, I thought you were talking about stacking the two of them together, because you also mentioned that in this thread....
My posts are quite clear:
Focused vision should be changed since it stacks with tracking and Soviet already have great reckon tools.
A SU-85 with focus sight/tracking has better los than IRHT...
The ability should me move to vet 1, (SU-85 has little reason to have trucking to begin with) and become timed instead of toggle.
Because a TD should not have an ability that is a better versions of the 222's"Infantry Awareness" ability.
If one read them carefully it pretty clear that I have only compared tracking with infatry awareness and not with focus sight as you understood.