Profile of Tiger Baron

Finally "Overwatch" is getting some deserved attention and feedback. As you,blvckdream and others mentioned this doctrine is underwhelming right now and need some buffs.

Let us summarize potential options to make it worthwhile for teamgames. I come back to ideas suggested in this thread:

• Lower CP of JLI to 1 or even 0
  
• Give it some form of airstrike (Stuka strafe of "Assault support" would fit nicely or Stuka loiter - could give OKW much needed AT)
  
• "Early warning" and "Defense of the fatherland" are the weakest abilities and ideal candidates to be replaced.
  
• Maybe we can merge Goliath with "Early warning" to "Overwatch" that would free up a whole slot.
  
  Doctrine could look like this then:
  
• Overwatch (Early warning+Goliath)
  
• JLI (CP1)
  
• Defense of the fatherland
  
• leFH
  
• Airstrike
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

The only unit that I can think that fits the doctrine is the 223.

I mean there's voice lines for an OKW StuG and Tiger but I don't really see how they might fit in.

Maybe letting the OKW's HQ trucks unsetup and move to act as radio cars like what SneakEye did? It'd be something unique only the Overwatch sWS could do.

Or let the normal sWS carry infantry units and allow them to reinforce, similar to what AEgion has done in his balance mod.

I mean that's really the 2 main options I see, either adding a new unit or giving the sWS-s some more utility in that upgrade for them that makes them like radio trucks.

Or maybe a Radio officer that uses the Ostheer Arty officer's model that can call in artillery and recon?

Just some feedback for the new changes:

The British Observation FHQ right now is still not worth it for 40 fuel and 300 manpower, you got a ton of ammo based abilities and a reinforcement point.

While you get the same thing but at a cheaper price with the FA at 350 manpower and 10 fuel with the upgrade.

I mean, 30 is still a lot, it can help you unlock research, tech, earlier vehicles and so forth.

So my suggestion is that in order to be worth it it must also come with a Forward Retreat Point, like the HQ Glider, so at least the invest of the fuel is worth it because right now it still feels like you're putting more in than you are getting out.

Perhaps the Soviet FHQ is in a similar situation altho it's support is more direct, still tho it makes more sense for an FHQ to have a forward retreat point rather than a unit, like in the case of the Commissar and Major.

Going to the next change, the Ostheer 250 is now a bit more usable in my opinion even if Katikof doesn't agree. I mean it's a Halftrack, it just makes sense for it to be able to reinforce. And now since it's a vet based ability it will probably mean that it will be usable even after heavier armor is on the field so it's not just a wasted investment into a quick paper armored Panzershreck bus.

And lastly, the Sturmtiger.

I feel like this unit is still underwhelming especially now that you're being locked out of the KT which isn't in any better position but it's easier to use and has direct impact on your offensive capabilities.

As someone else mentioned there are still the problems of it's MG revealing it's position and it's rockets hitting some small obstacles along the way to it's intended target which prematurely denotes it, I didn't think about it now and I always thought that it was my own mistake but the reality is that the rocket appears to be a big object so it makes sense that it's hitting some small objects rendering it's combat capabilities 50% less useful.

And I again wanted to take a moment to talk about Planet Smasher's Artillery Pit and how it will solve several problems that the British are having:

You will have a mobile mortar which means on demand smoke, right now the only units having smoke abilities are the mortar pit which is static, the Cromwell and the Comet, the Comet being locked behind Hammer.

The Mortar pit itself will not be removed, it will just be repurposed as a garrisonable emplacement which will add to the British and their mortar's uniqueness while also providing the Sappers with their own sort of trench defensive structure which they can build and garrison.

So effectively it's hitting 3 birds with one stone while keeping the mortar pit but making it more practical and I'd argue that it would make the British and their mortar even more unique since bonuses or a sort of IS cover/garrison bonus could be given to the mortars when they're garrisoned inside the pit, Planet Smasher has given the mortars increased range and access to WP shells for example.

Here is the link to the workshop item: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=679152285

It will not change a hell of a lot but it will make the mortar pit more practical and fix what's left of the British in order to make them viable for smaller team games again while also sorting out any worries about their indirect fire capabilities and how to balance them and so forth.

Here you go! It was part of QoL list, but this variants were srapped later due to their quality.

Ah, sad to hear. Regardless, they looked quite nice.

But here's the "use land mattress etc" argument again, if OKW got an MG, flame nade and P4 non doc then I don't see why brits should suffer so much with awkward to use base howitzers.

And USF got the Mortar as well.

Thinking about it now, the reason why nobody mentioned the mortar pit (except for that it was a badly designed unit reminiscent of the emplacement spam CoH Brits) was because it was far more effective and actually required micro to be good due to it's 4 types of shells.

I mean sure it was still static but it was better than having the current cripple of an easily counterable mortar pit.

I am begging you with tears in my eyes, at least please consider implementing Planet Smasher's Artillery pit or another alternative for a British non-doctrinal and non-fuel costing mobile mortar in the next revamp mod patch for testing and experimenting purposes.

The snares for the British are very much welcome but are only sadly 50% of why the Army is under utilized and under powered as many regard is.

And yes I know you answered my question about it but with each passing day with every topic I read regarding the British it always ends with a mobile mortar being the solution to the problem in most people's opinions.

I also fear that this is probably their last chance to be fixed since it's the end of the "5 year plan".

Again, at least please consider it for the next patch. Here is also a nice video I stumbled upon which also talks about the importance of a mobile mortar which somewhat translates into the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v772NNOTY8M

I know it might seem silly but it just breaks my heart to see them struggling because I was in the UKF Alpha and I somehow feel connected to the Army. I also loved the British in CoH even tho they had mostly the same issues but I was not part of their development unlike here.