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Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2015, 16:06 PMAustralian Magic

Im more afraid of AA Truck than M20. You can faust M20 and finish it with MG.

Fausting AA is almost impossible and you need well placed MG with vet or Pak (to keep it at distance) and double pak for instakill.

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2015, 07:32 AMKatitof

It doesn't forces you to single doctrine every game.
It have more HP then IS-2.
It have more penetration then IS-2(you could say its about the same, but how often do you ram heavy tanks into each other instead of keeping them at max range?).
It have 50% more AT DPS and incomparably better AI.
Its MG suppresses.
Its realistic armor value is still bigger then that of IS-2 because axis have AT with greater penetration overall.
That teching is cheapest in game and provides utility for cost that can't be compared to any other army that's how good it is.

Its pretty well worth its cost.
Had IS-2 or Tiger not require a doctrine choice I can see how they would be more expensive.
Had there be limit to 1 11+CP unit the discussion wouldn't even exist.

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2015, 12:45 PMBrachiaraidos

http://www.coh2-stats.com/compare?utf8=%E2%9C%93&squad1=obersoldaten_squad_mp&squad2=volksgrenadier_squad_mp&commit=Compare

The DPS of a volks squad varies between 0.6 and 0.5 of an Ober squad. Two of them are 480MP. Without any upgrades, Obers are pretty much twice as efficient as Volks for less than twice the cost.

With an LMG34 they are much more dangerous and STG44's are absurdly good at dealing damage in maps with good places to set up. Obers are also, amusingly, harder to kill than volks because of their accuracy modifiers.


Obers are not a viable force if you only use them. But they are very much cost efficient still.

(2 Fusiliers are sodding 580 MP though, what did you expect with them?)

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2015, 00:43 AMNuclear Arbitor

obers are only cost inefficient if you let models die without killing the enemies which pretty much only happens due to bad play. kill two enemy models, lose one ober model, and your obers are roughly cost efficient.