Daspoulos has never opened a history book that wasn't biased, if at all apparently. The T34 was only reliably killed by the 88 until the heavier Panzers were developed to kill it. The long barreled Panzer 4 still had to close to a range it could hit back, also that by the time of the long barreled variants appearance, the Russians were firing back with the 85mm.
The T34 wasn't just good because it was mass produced, It was successful as it didn't get stuck in mud, didn't light on fire by moving even early in its production, didn't freeze up in the climates the invading Nazi Germany found itself in, and yes was also very easy to put together and was a damn good machine (which as much as it makes you red in the face the Nazi's saw that). Just as if production of the Panzer 4 late variants or Panther would have seen the Nazis off much better than wasting so much time and effort on tanks that equated to the production time of 4 of the less complicated Panzers. Hell someone even posted the prototype i mentioned, its a T34 drawn by German designer lol.
I think History speaks for itself, especially when the Germans developed new tanks in direct response to the "shit" T34/76.
Thanks for the usual derail Daspoulos back to topic, 76 would be fine in a more AT intensive role to encourage its use, with a fuel increase to bring that in line. As has been mentioned here, bitching about call in Meta and refusing to even hear of buffs for non doc units is pretty dumb when its the lack of good solid stock units that is the root of the issue.
Oh boy the t-34 is once again similar to the katana vs long swords discussions. it reached mystical proportions and statistics be damned.
The T34 was only reliably killed by the 88
peculiar since half the t-34's in 1941 where knocked out by 50 mm long barrelled p3's and only 9 % by the 88
The long barrelled Panzer 4 still had to close to a range it could hit back
Completely false. depending on what gun the p4 long barrel could knock out a t-34 out between 1000-1500 meters. use this as reference
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.5_cm_KwK_40
It was successful as it didn't get stuck in mud,
True but not much of an accomplishment considering the soviets knew their territory while the Germans fought in Europe with its much better infrastructure.
didn't light on fire by moving even early in its production
Once again this is false. The t-34 had some major issues in the beginning.
I think History speaks for itself, especially when the Germans developed new tanks in direct response to the "shit" T34/76.
False once again. The Germans realised that they needed better tanks after encountering the much better French and British tanks that the German panzers simply could not handle. when the Germans invaded Russia the panther and tigers where already being designed.
However the Germans didn't expect the soviets having the t-34 and en mass converted their obsolete p1 2 and 3's into marders and stugs.
The problem is not the t-34 but the fact that the su85 is not in the tier making it very vunrabel to heavies TD's and generalist tanks.