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Thread: Patch notes for 23rd June17 Jun 2015, 22:55 PM Jump back to quoted post17 Jun 2015, 22:54 PMSqueaky Door 96 I never said anything aobut damage, just better stats. Su76 will penetrate more reliably, which will bring the difference down to 1 shot I think. Still, Imperial Dane will finally have even wetter dreams about his beloved Stug G Actually he was against this buff (ruined the concept of an assault gun he said) i shit you not. had a heated discussion with him on this in the alpha. In: Lobby
Thread: Patch notes for 23rd June17 Jun 2015, 22:52 PM Jump back to quoted post17 Jun 2015, 22:49 PMSqueaky Door 96 the teching cost of getting A stug G is horribly expensive. They won't hard counter anything, they themselves are hard countered by the fact that Soviets don't even have to tech to get the 85s out. unless you fuck up badly its impossible for a t34/85 to cost effectively fight stugs. In: Lobby
Thread: Patch notes for 23rd June17 Jun 2015, 22:49 PM m3 spam has been indirectly nerfed by the flamethrower nerf. and considering that ostheer will have a very good reason going to tier 3 it could set the su back a lot in to get those atg's out quickly enough. the okw is going to be happy they dont need to deal with the double is2 nonsense any longer overall soviets took a pounding this patch. In: Lobby
Thread: T-34 needs a buff14 Jun 2015, 01:07 AM The T34/76, as I showed above, is not up to the task. It is too cost inefficient at 100fu and with such a shitty DPS. 4 Shermans have far more DPS than 4 T34/76s. In fact, it takes 10 Shermans (110fu) before you get a free T34/76 (100fu), assuming no popcap, and the Shermans are literally better in every way. yes a staggering 11.3 % damage difference between the sherman and the t-34 (9.9% at long range btw) . You obviously believe wish to believe the t-34 is bad. fine by me. But i rather wait until 27th and seen how the new patch will work out. The war of wrath ^ indeed but now its time for the war of sloth and im going to bed . i will wake up again when the patch notes are out In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T-34 needs a buff13 Jun 2015, 21:12 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Jun 2015, 19:47 PMVuther Which allows you to spend fuel on other stuff, like a PIV as comm_ash suggests, and still get a really powerful tank. Don't spend the fuel the TA "saves" you, the lack of a fuel cost isn't an advantage. And wouldn't you try to use advantages? Its true you can go for a p4 but i generally do not do so. if i tech to tier 3 its usually to get a ostwind to decisively win the game with a shock unit. if i feel the game can swing either way i still get a panther first . Im not talking about panthers, you can see quite clearly that I reference Axis Superheavy TDs, which is the Pak43, JT, and ELE. Killing a JT/ ELE is impossible with the SU85, since it needs to engage frontally. This means that the T34/76 should be the viable unit Its impossible with the t-34 as well. Hell a good player is going to those teller mines with a fury making it impossible for any tank to flank such TD's . generally long range units need to have large amounts of support to function to prevent from being flanked and considering the speed your opponents they are sitting ducks to arty. once again you try to buff the t-34 for the wrong reasons. A Pak would also tear the T34/76 up, so I don't understand what you are saying here. Soviets have no non-doc breakthrough unit like the Panther/ Brummbar/ KT. paks can be flanked with t-34's and while i will risk a kt or brumbar against one ATG im sure as hell not going to use send them straight into 2 ATG's. and panthers , because the lack of ai ,are not a breakthrough units at all. flanking is important and even breakthrough units need to use it. The current T34/76 would be useful at one thing, flanking, but it doesn't have the DPS to justify using it except as a last resort. No Medium should be relegated to being a shitty flank assaulter that cannot even deal much damage. Well every medium is a shitty flanker when it comes to heavies. or do you think you can use p4's to take an is2 head on? and the sherman will be as effective against the tiger as the t-34 is. just about everyone in this thread has agreed that the T34/76 needs a cost decrease looks at the poll numbers riiiigght .Sry mate im not convinced by your arguments. you wish to spam a medium and face roll everything with it. use combined arms and very soon the su will be able to use combined arms. see you at 26th. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T-34 needs a buff13 Jun 2015, 19:14 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Jun 2015, 15:13 PMcomm_ash Thats not true at all. The P4 is a great tank, and Ostheer T3 is in no way not viable. The P4 is a generalist tank with good pen, this means it can fulfill many roles equally well. The only tanks a P4 struggles with are heavy mediums (E8/T34/85) and heavies. Even then, one P4 can defeat an E8 or T34/85 with micro. Being a better player doesnt mean its balanced. i have seen 3 t70 killing a panther and i have used a single puma vs a is2 and won. There is a reason that players that go Elite Troops doctrine build P4s. They get really good with vet and are really good at punishing enemy infantry, and to support your AT guns while you wait for the TA. And here i thought people went ET because the TA didnt cost any fuel. Your AT guns should be the units that you use with medium armor when you have no TDs, and that is what both Ostheer and Soviet T3 try to do. However, the biggest threat zis guns face are enemy long range infantry, and that is something a T34/76 doesn't handle. If the T34/76 had at least as good effective AI as the P4, it would be able to punish enemy infantry, and allow AT guns to do their job. I have seen more P4s than I have seen T34s in all the 1s and 2s I have played, purely because the P4 is a much more sensible long term investment, while the T34/76 is only useful as a rush tank that loses its advantage as soon as any AT arrives. In fact, most of the time the only reason I see a T34/76 is because a player rushed a T70, and needed some form of mobile light AT to counter a luchs or a fast P4. People do not get the T34/76 because it is a good tank. They get it because they have no choice. You greatly overestimate the AI capabilities of the p4. and if you believe that the t-34 is bad at AT why no get an su85 and use callins to cover any gap. In what way is Soviet T3 not broken? You make the statement that it is fine, yet I have showed you several times why it is not so. The T34/76 is absolutely the core SUs best lategame tank, and yet it sucks at its role. I never said tier 3 is fine. in fact i have stated the opposite that tier is as logical as a luchs in the okw hq building. The units themselves are fine however. and their is no such thing as a core unit when it comes to tanks. The SU85 is a perfectly fine unit, but is hardcountered by lategame Axis TDs. Asking T34/76 and SU85 available in the same tier fixes nothing vs. this issue, as the T34/76 is not spammable enough to defeat supported heavy TDs cost effectively, Su85's are not hardcounterd by panthers. it depends on a varied of circumstances including terrain commander usage and skill of the players. but a panther attacking a su85 head one stand a very good change of losing. And spam will solve nothing. supported td's are still going to utterly wreck any medium generalist as they should because somehow you believe medium tanks should be capable of defeating its own counter. and the SU85 is unable to flank due to its immobile nature. Making the SU85 and T34/76 in the same tier will just see nothing but Su85s being spammed, with a T70 for scouting and AI. There will literally be no reason to get the T34/76, if it comes with a better alternative to both AI and AT. It will get SU76 syndrome. i have no issues with that because a pak would able to quickly tear such a strat apart. having a healty mix of combined arms is vital. The T34/76 is the worst lategame tank, both out of the box and with vet. It is also too expensive to be spammed. WHY IS THIS ALRIGHT? its the worst medium tank but still usefull for flanking and scouting and supporting the su85 or t-70. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T-34 needs a buff13 Jun 2015, 14:45 PM comm_ash even if the t-34 was buffed to mirror the p4 ,tier 3 would still be useless. tigers and panthers are still going to have a field day with them. And i didnt use ost tier 3 as an excuse but as an example. Both tiers lack dedicated TD's. Thats why they are not viable. Teching structure in both factions is the problem not the units. Your post are actually horrifying to read: you are trying to fix something that clearly isn't broken and ignore the issue that messes up the entire SU stock choices I find a bit ridiculous that i have to explain the need for combined arms to you. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T-34 needs a buff13 Jun 2015, 12:05 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Jun 2015, 01:33 AMcomm_ash Edit: in terms of your p4 vs. T34/76 statement. The t34 has a 100/180 chance to pen a stock P4 at mid range while the p4 has a 110/180 chance. This is at vet 0. At vet 2, the p4 gets over 220 effective armor at vet 2, giving the t34 < 50% to pen at mid and long ranges. At far, the t34 has 80 pen whole the p4 has 100. At close, both tanks have 120 pen. Thats why the p4 is more expensive. That the p4 wins against the t-34 is not imbalanced. And the t34 in no way is meant to be used in conjunction with other armor. It has 0 advantages that support armor foes (high dps, high survivability), and has NO LATEGAME units in its tier. People stop using t70s late game because t70s have 320hp (1 pak43/jt/ele, 2 pak), not because people suck. Su85's are almost impossible to tech to. T34s are absolutely meant to be spammed. Mate many usf and okw players use the jackson/howie carrier or panther/luchs combo. This is something the current su and ost cannot do. you dont see many t-34's but at the same time you dont see many p4's either. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T-34 needs a buff13 Jun 2015, 11:42 AM Jump back to quoted post13 Jun 2015, 02:37 AMGrumpy You still haven't answered the question of what units do the US players have that can take damage like Tigers, Panthers, Elefants, JT's, KT's? That and arguments like using dps for comparing tanks show that you either don't understand the game or are just trolling. I dont see why you brought this up? but the answer is they dont have any units that can soak damage save perhaps the e8 which can deflect lighter AT. But thats why the usf goes full glass cannon territory. 2 Jackson will quickly destroy any tiger panther or KT. provided you use them in pairs. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T-34 needs a buff13 Jun 2015, 00:29 AM Jump back to quoted post13 Jun 2015, 00:23 AMGrumpy Or Relic could just make the T34/85 the standard T4 tank, and make the T34/76 into the call-in, with a low cp value so it still has some shock value. WFA was supposed to be late war and the standard Soviet tank was the T34/85 by then. is their a reason why the 85 should be there? In: COH2 Balance