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Thread: For Mother Russia - working as intended?1 Jul 2021, 14:28 PM Jump back to quoted post1 Jul 2021, 13:26 PMVipper Yes sheock troops could yolo charge with for the mother land and even get easily kill on retreat and this why the the ability changed (for every faction.) So changing it for moving like "From Cover to Cover" or "Tactical Movement" would have done the trick too and would have fitted the commander. Jump back to quoted post1 Jul 2021, 13:26 PMVipper PTRS vs vehicles is not really very relevant That is a very, very funny statement. I do think I don't need to comment that any further... Shooting at vehicles accuracy bonus gets you absolutely nothing, shooting at infantry it depends on target, range and vet of penals. There are enough ingame situations where you will automatically hit with Vet without FMR bonus. One example shooting at weapon team crews. Overall Penals get less out of it in comparison to other troops because of PTRS and high own acc boni. For Shock Troops it is just plainly awful. Jump back to quoted post1 Jul 2021, 13:26 PMVipper That is like saying that HMG-42 does not benefit from AP rounds that increases accuracy (and damage) Claiming that maxims do not benefit from this ability is simply false. You miss the point since the main role of AP rounds are beeing a soft counter to light vehicles. Furthermore the HMG-42 has such a high suppression that a higher accuracy shouldn't lead to the situation that you suppression is worse by killing squad entities. Anyways as I said Maxims are not the core of this Commander, only some optional supplement. And this was not my main matter, so lets not derail it anymore at this point. Jump back to quoted post1 Jul 2021, 13:26 PMVipper The changes was in correct direction since it no longer "press a key get squad wipes" ability and it is similar for all faction. Its okay that is no Squad Wipe button anymore. But by making abilities similar you have to take into account the different faction traits. If the commander would come with Airborne Guards or Assault Guards which both would greatly profit form current FMR it would be another thing. With the combination of Shock troops and Penals it was nerfed in the wrong direction. The ability should focus on movement and not combat buffs. Please no "standardization" without thinking about game mechanics of certain commanders. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: For Mother Russia - working as intended?1 Jul 2021, 12:22 PM Jump back to quoted post1 Jul 2021, 12:02 PMVipper That is simply false. It is not because Brits and OKW are just better at long range infantry combat than Soviet Counterattack Tactics which have no good long range infantry. Obviously an infantry unit that stops sprinting when getting shot at profits a lot more of the accuracy bonus if it is suited for long range combat. A short ranged unit like Shock Troops would be better off to sprint closer since they deal way less damage at medium range even with the accuracy bonus. That is a real simple logic, so be careful about calling out such things. Jump back to quoted post1 Jul 2021, 12:02 PMVipper The ability comes with 15% accuracy bonus so Penal get great far, DPS conscripts get good far DPS and maxim get excellent DPS (50% accuracy). Regarding Penals: They don't need 15% accuracy since they hit every vehicle in this game automatically at Vet0. Should you fight infantry they get a huge accuracy bonus with Vet and Vet1 ability to the last man already. Penals are a design flaw regarding the combination of PTRS and their Vet, they are the least ones needing more accuracy. They should be vetted when FMR is available. Regarding Maxim: If the accuracy and thus killing capability of an MG gets too strong its ability to suppress drops. Somebody around here explained that mechanism at the Vickers a while ago. The least you want is less suppression on Maxim. I'm not completely sure about the effect at Maxim suppression (how it works out). Anyways Maxims are not the main body of troops at Counterattack Tactics, a combination of Shock Troops and Penals synergizes well at this commander. But both don't really profit enough from FMR. Jump back to quoted post1 Jul 2021, 12:02 PMVipper The ability also provides 90% received accuracy so infatry take less damage on approach. The only thing that does something at least. But as I said factions are different. Old FMR factored that in, the patch nerfed it in the wrong direction. Regarding Counterattack Tactics + Soviets design it should have nerfed shooting not moving. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: For Mother Russia - working as intended?1 Jul 2021, 11:41 AM Jump back to quoted post1 Jul 2021, 11:10 AMSneakEye Valiant Assault and Radio Silence Don't shoot the messenger Yeah you are right about that. British Assault Operation is the same also. But obviously you can't just standardize across all factions, since factions are different. At 6 CPs (timing of VA) OKW is doing good with infantry at long to medium range and profits from an infantry combat bonus. Brits on the other hand are a long range focused army from the start so they profit too, Commandos still have the option to hold fire and sprint over rough terrain with camouflage to get real close before shooting or getting equipped with double bren to be good at med to long range. The Soviet commander with FMR is focused on close combat since there are no strong long range infantry units, but strong CC units. So they suffer a lot more from this "standardization". An ability giving only sprint (From Cover to Cover / Tactical Movement) would be way better for the commander. The old FMR was good and strong (maybe too strong). The patched one is just rubbish for Soviets. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: For Mother Russia - working as intended?1 Jul 2021, 10:53 AM Jump back to quoted post1 Jul 2021, 06:42 AMSneakEye Working as intended. https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/67/coh-2-changelog/p6 There is no standardization, it is just worse than other abilities. Which other ability cancels sprint when getting shot at? It should be like that: They just can't shoot while moving, but when you move they sprint. Before the nerf it was movement bonus + shooting at the same time, that was the problem and the reason for a standardization. I have no problem that they took away the shooting while moving. But then make it either sprint or shooting controlled by the player like other similar abilities. The current "For mother Russia" leads to a lot of akward situations. Here are some examples: 1) You want to flank a MG fast before it can reposition. You get shot by one of the crew members or some squad like Pioneers nearby. You get slowed instantly, giving the MG time to reposition or evade. 2) Shock Troops want to get to short range for maximum damage, if they get under fire they stop sprinting and start shooting at their max range doing so low damage. Imagine you could stop Ass grens sprinting just by shooting at them... 3) Units that can't damage a tank stop sprinting and start shooting at the tank if they get shot by it. 4) Penals charging a tank for an at satchel just stop charging if the tank shots once at them. It can even be a TD with tiny damage vs infantry, just hit the Penals once. If sprint of FMR doesn't get standardized with other sprinting abilities, Shock Troops and Penals need a hold fire button to give players control with more micro at least. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: For Mother Russia - working as intended?1 Jul 2021, 00:42 AM When your sprinting troops get shot at while sprinting they stop sprinting and start to return fire. Thats is annoying because you want to sprint close up with your Shock troops, stop and unload for maximum damage or sprint with your Penals to that tank to use the AT satchel. It is even more idiotic because Shock Troops stop their sprint to shoot at Tanks they can't hurt instead of sprinting to that infantry unit they should attack up close. Please note that troops under the effect of "From Cover to Cover" (USF) or "Tactical Movement" (Ostheer) don't stop sprinting when getting under fire. Any other sprint ability like Cons "Oorah" or Ass Grens "Sprint" isn't affected by incoming fire either. I do think that is something that got overlooked when the ability was standardized a few patches ago. Troops could fire while moving faster if I remind it correctly. That was obviously idoctic too. Please change, give sprint control to player and remove automatic returning fire. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Soviet Feedback31 May 2021, 20:22 PM Jump back to quoted post31 May 2021, 10:29 AMHannibal Alright, I see your point. Thanks for the info. Personally I am not yet sure what to weight higher: overall better design or more constant performance across all modes. Maybe some issues can be alleviated by tuning the plane speed as previously done for other abilities, but this obviously needs testing. You are welcome :-) I'm in for anything that works and helps to even out abilities/units across game modes. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Soviet Feedback31 May 2021, 00:10 AM Jump back to quoted post30 May 2021, 18:27 PMHannibal I am not sure if I am missing something here, but unless you have been pushed back heavily or pushed the enemy, units generally stand in the middle of the map. So it should not matter that much if you attack from the front or the back, or what am I not getting here? Why is this more special for 3v3/4v4 than for small modes? Large modes generally have more delay on plane based attacks, I just don't get why the direction is that important if units are fighting in the middle of the map anyway. If you could elaborate on that, that would be good. No problem, I will explain with the aid of a real game situation. As I played on steppes there was a fight about the island at the bottom with fuel and VP. Germans were playing on left side. A damaged Panther that just dived in and destroyed the SU-85 that was shooting at it tried moving backwards up to base. Its motor got damaged at the fight, it was still at the island driving backwards in sight of a soviet infantry unit. Since it was real close to the lower edges I could strafe over its full length from the right bottom. The opponent tried to evade but just couldn't move out of the way fast enough. It was very close, he nearly made it. With the plane approaching from the other side I do think he should have saved his Panther. You are surely not fighting only at the centre of the map and tanks are not always aligned parallel to the edges of a map. There are always flanks to protect and VPs close to the edges of a map. The fighting takes place there too and such situations are not rare, they happen all the time. You won't have this problem at 1vs1 maps, they are just to small too make a real difference in approaching paths. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Soviet Feedback29 May 2021, 22:09 PM Jump back to quoted post29 May 2021, 21:13 PMHannibal So the ability now works like everything else in the game: reliable against the rear, RNG from the front. And this is bad because? If you want it to be always reliable then armor does not matter at all, eliminating one of the core mechanivs of vehicle combat. Sorry, but that is simply not true. Armor gets eliminated at a lot of situations or at least gets next to eliminated. First exception: TDs and SHTDs that work reliable against the front of a lot of targets (especially with vet or abilities like HVAP). Second exception: ATGs that work reliable against the front of a lot of targets (especially 17pdr/Pak43) Third exception: Howitzers Fourth exception: Multiple offmap abilities which deal reliable (consistent) damage from all approaching angles or from the top (penetration = 100%) Jump back to quoted post29 May 2021, 21:13 PMHannibal The approach time and the respective differences between modes/map sizes are a different issue. The parameters should be set to a common ground where every mode can live with it, but at the very core this issue is not fixable. So don't get it worse. A damage reduction (although not wanted as Sander93 said) would nerf rocket strafe equally at all game modes for example. I'm not in for allied nerfs that hit 3v3/4vs4 harder than 1vs1/2vs2. Thats the wrong direction. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Soviet Feedback29 May 2021, 21:53 PM Jump back to quoted post29 May 2021, 20:13 PMdonofsandiego So then don't use the rockets from the front if you don't want to deal with RNG. Also, it still does a ton of damage considering that it's just ONE!! call in ability. If you have teammates nearby (or evwn your own tank destroyers) you're going to have a much easier time blasting the superheavy to death. Add to that the stun you're assumedly putting on the tank before the rockets even come in (meaning allied TDs get a chance to hit it for free) and it's really not that big of an issue. Killing Axis superheavies should be somewhat of a team effort considering how much resources go into them. So you can't solo the Elefant any more. It still does a lot of damage. I play nearly exclusively 4v4s Allied and I think this change is warranted. Of course you should be able to solo any unit of your (direct) opponent if you play all your cards right. If one team has units that need combined team actions by default to take down and the other one hasn't then something is seriously wrong with that game mode. It just should be easier as a team but not mandatory. If you go for doctrinal rocket strafe you will not have a single unit that will need a combined team action of your opponents for example. So you should be able to solo your opponent in exchange in an even fight. There still will be a lot that can go wrong. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Soviet Feedback29 May 2021, 20:00 PM Jump back to quoted post29 May 2021, 06:11 AMSander93 That result is not a gamble, it is not RNG. It is rear armor vs front armor. Just to be fair: He has a point. Compare 5th tank to 7th tank in upper row. Both get hit from the front. Thats a huge difference already. Reason: low penetration vs high front armor = RNG You can compare second to third tank in upper row too. Both from the rear, not such a big difference, but RNG still leads to situation where the Elephant will get destroyed with some other hits or can escape depending on RNG of rocket strafe despite some other hits. My main issue with the pentration nerf is that the penetration nerf leads to the situation where you want to attack from the rear always. This will lead to a longer approach time in many situations and will make the attack more predictable (you know the direction it is coming from). Especially at the big 3vs3/4vs4 maps. A faster tank like a Panther or PZIV may escape completetly in this higher time window. So this is a bigger nerf to the big game modes than the small ones. Don't like that, because Soviets struggle there while doing absolutely fine in 1vs1. We don't need any futher nerfs to 3v3/4vs4 allied performance, its bad enough already. In: COH2 Balance