Infiltration Commandos Manpower Change

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2019, 18:16 PMNorthFireZ

Why are they so expensive to call in if you have to reinforce them to full squad every time?

Even calling them from off map spawns with 3 models.

I understand the reasons back when this change was made but I think seeing how Airborne guards spawn with 6 man and Falls getting their own manpower reductions... It just doesn't seem right for them to cost an arm and a leg to use.

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2019, 18:16 PMNorthFireZ

Even calling them from off map spawns with 3 models.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2019, 03:02 AMMr. Someguy

Rather than spawning with a partial squad, I'd prefer they be like Stormtroopers or Airborne Guards and spawn with Lee Enfields, with a free upgrade to STEN.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2019, 03:02 AMMr. Someguy

Rather than spawning with a partial squad, I'd prefer they be like Stormtroopers or Airborne Guards and spawn with Lee Enfields, with a free upgrade to STEN.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2019, 04:06 AMSupport Sapper

Spawn with 4 man and rifle, then upgrade to sten or bren gun, or PIAT, maybe. Make them different from glider commandoes

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2019, 07:27 AMKatitof

Read the thread?
They have no rifle animation.
That's why they have less men instead of rifles.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2019, 07:27 AMKatitof

Read the thread?
They have no rifle animation.
That's why they have less men instead of rifles(also, british commandos never used rifles).

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2019, 08:27 AMgeneral_gawain

The dev team confirmed to address this problem already as I posted this a month ago. It was too late to integrate it in the september patch, but will be in the next one. I'm not entirely sure if they plan to change something about model count or the initial weaponry (another user suggested to bring them to 5 five men, equip them with weaker starting weaponry and give them a free sten upgrade) or just want to adjust their cost.

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2019, 18:16 PMNorthFireZ

Why are they so expensive to call in if you have to reinforce them to full squad every time?

Even calling them from off map spawns with 3 models.

I understand the reasons back when this change was made but I think seeing how Airborne guards spawn with 6 man and Falls getting their own manpower reductions... It just doesn't seem right for them to cost an arm and a leg to use.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2019, 15:57 PMKiwiBirb

This is the most biased poll I’ve ever seen.

People will pick option 2 because you’ve supported that arguement, while the other 2 don’t have any reasons for them.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2019, 15:27 PMSander93

Indeed, thanks for bringing it to our attention back then.

Adjusting their weapons (to Lee Enfields as the only alternative) to let them spawn at 5 models creates problems with the elite Brens, as that would increase their far range DPS which is already really good with Brens. And adjusting elite Brens to compensate would in turn mess with the DPS of the other Commandos squads.


So, Infiltration Commandos are now planned to simply get a cost reduction from 380 manpower (+70mp to reinforce) to ~300ish manpower (+70mp to reinforce) so that the total cost of a squad becomes ~370mp, which should match their performance a lot better. Should be included in the next follow-up balance patch.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2019, 15:27 PMSander93

Indeed, thanks for bringing it to our attention back then.

Adjusting their weapons (to Lee Enfields as the only alternative) to let them spawn at 5 models creates problems with the elite Brens, as that would increase their far range DPS which is already really good with Brens. And adjusting elite Brens to compensate would in turn mess with the DPS of the other Commandos squads.


So, Infiltration Commandos are now planned to simply get a cost reduction from 380 manpower (+70mp to reinforce) to ~300ish manpower (+70mp to reinforce) so that the total cost of a squad becomes ~370mp, which should match their performance a lot better. Should be included in the next follow-up balance patch.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2019, 15:27 PMSander93

Indeed, thanks for bringing it to our attention back then.

Adjusting their weapons (to Lee Enfields as the only alternative) to let them spawn at 5 models creates problems with the elite Brens, as that would increase their far range DPS which is already really good with Brens. And adjusting elite Brens to compensate would in turn mess with the DPS of the other Commandos squads.


So, Infiltration Commandos are now planned to simply get a cost reduction from 380 manpower (+70mp to reinforce) to ~300ish manpower (+70mp to reinforce) so that the total cost of a squad becomes ~370mp, which should match their performance a lot better. Should be included in the next follow-up balance patch.