Profile of HFSzsoci

OKW vs US matchup :

OKW build order : Kübel, Volks, Volks, Volks, Puma ...
US build order : Rifle, Rifle, Rifle, Rifle, LT into M20

Kübel fucks up US early game. US struggles to kill Kübel and gets M20 to kill it. Kübel dies. Puma comes and kills M20. OKW spams more elite infantry, preferably Jaegers. US tries to counter infantry. OKW spams more infantry and Puma keeps shooting and occasionally sniping infantry. gg.

Theres no reason to NOT rush out a Puma vs US.

Try out US build order this: rifle rifle rifle bazooka, LT, M20 while you put mines on choke point, and try flank/AT rifle naded with vet1 rifles his vehicles, but i like the Capitan tech tree instead of LT, AT guns with Stuart is a good combo too... Kübel would be dead, Puma pushed away/dead, later if OKW spam elite inf, you upgrade your Rifles with BAR, or the better doctrinal M1919 lmg, or doctrinal paratroopers with lmg...

HVAP does just fine and at Vet 3 with HVAP it has 0 problems. In fact if it was more mobile it could get behind the heavies where they have weaker armor.

I use dual M10s and since it costs little more and they only have slightly worse penetration and are cheaper i.e. vet faster you can survive this

2 M10s means they can survive 6 hits as a pair. 3 hits each. The Jackson can survive 3 hits. It will get blitzed on. Extra Penetration will not save you from a Puma or Blitzing P4/Panther.

Really with lackluster HPs and Mobility it might as well be a casemate tank like the SU85. There is no room to maneuver the thing and escaping is a challenge.

It has no AI either like brought up in another post with no AI no armor and no HPs unlike an Elephant/JagdTiger/JP4 its range doesnt amount to much because it WILL get chased down and destroyed quite easily.

Its a high value target. Its both expensive and the easiest dedicated Tank Destroyer in game to kill.

It either needs to be able to easily escape situations (mobility) or its needs more HPs to survive so it can for it to be an asset and not a liability.

Raise the cost 10 fuel and give it 640 HPs for all I care. It requires more surviability more then anything else right now.

I think, with 640 hp, you get a unit, with SU 85 hp, SU 85 range, WITH turret - faster rotation, good speed, acceleration/dec, very good penetration with HVAP and vet, and 240 (1,5x) damage. I dont think, on hand a player with good micro, would be balanced vs axis tank, maybe, a smoke addition, for 30-45 muni price, if really need something.

i almost took you seriously until i gave it a watch, congratulations on the win anyways. go work your way up and face people who truly understands okw.

he let you mass up 3 shocks but failed to react with a pzII, also he allowed your su76 and zis to shoot his panther rear armour continuously.

he saw a t2 start with shocks but did not react with kubels, he did react with hmg34 though.

he went 4x volks for some reason and his sturmpioneer was camping the house for a good part of the game, failing to utilize the dps. also he went 2x falls, too much manpower invested in infantry while not being very efficient with his own.

apart from the engagement where he lost the panther, he failed to coordinate proper assaults into your lines. most of it were little skirmishes with his volks/falls against conscripts and shocks. most of which he lost and retreated.

mostly, it was just t4 vs a mediocre player. should an experienced one played against you, that sturmpioneer would have long forced ur maxims out while volks draw fire, if that isnt enough, volks will nade the building. opening up more flanking routes into ur mortars.

either puma or luchs will be rushed, that will make ur shocks primarily defensive and your mortars useless. he would be able to claim the map quite easily. going t4 then would be a bad idea. you would have gone for a reactionary AT gun while he will continuously bleed you and gain more ground. until you can take his light armour out, you will be hard pressed for manpower to buy any new units.

Kübel is a good unit, but map like this, as OKW, i prefer the mg34 better too for crowd controll, because many many choke point here, and a lots key house, where i can put mines for kübel, kübel pathfindig terrible, one little mistake, AT nade hit, no more kübel, and kübel cant garrisoned, mg34 can.

His first Panther was circled by AT naded conscripts, and shooted bye AT gun, and SU76 while try evade the AT nades with his frontal armor, i think, turned back to the AT gun, and the SU76 was behind him at chase down situation, thats right, but i think, 1 moment clear, the SU76 with his mobility/range is good synergy with AT guns, AT gun have penetration, dps, SU 76 have mobility for a injured enemy cutting down. This was a Panther, need for me obviously the Panther rear armor, but for a PUMA, this is not factor.

He needed desperatly those fallshirm, because without them, by owerhelming SU infantry power, the game ended, before he can build Obers vs Shocks, and fallshirm was good from deploying the hause.

Maybe you have right with Luchs, but i filled the map with mines, have AT naded Conscripts, 2 vetted mortars, and if he try tech to early, 3x Shock with mg-s mortars, conscripts can make very very good mapcontroll for me imo, and without a map, 1 luchs not make wonder...

Ohh, and vs garrissoned 6 member Maxims, i feel the volks nade is most of times, waste of your munition, i think this is the weakest side for the OKW, before STUKA, you are really weak vs 6members squad in strong building, no flamer attack, and nade not enough powerfull for this job, the OKW mortar, Inf support Gun, is expensive, and unnaccurate as hell...

I never said, this was a top10 game, but that was, what i find, in current patch, where im RUS vs OKW, with T4.

You can upload for me decent replays, where you stomped as RUS vs massed Puma?

I play yesterday, where try out new strats, as SU, i faced vs OKW player, T2 T4 strat, Puma none, but Panther killed with SU 76, and overall T4 was good imo.

I not use spam to many times, i say only, the right counter for the Puma, as russian, the Su 76. SU 76 coming from RUS T4, and this viable, yes, vs OKW, not just t3. I try search some replay for you, where i use T4 as russian, but because vs me, i dont remember pure puma spam, i never forced be play with counter pure Su76 spam...