Yes I hope to see cromwell at 10 popcap and t3476 get a bit cheaper in mp and fuel. |
Imo how about not only make t3476 cost less, make it build faster, but also t4 tech cost less, but make katty build longer to prevent arty too soon.
Imo too much emphasis on ram here. |
What I would like to point out is that in WC2019 Soviet where not weak and once ostheer "crutch" commander are fixed they might prove to be ok.
Yes this. I don't understand when sov have been weak suddenly.
They are probably strongest late game faction still, in team games at least.
I don't believe ele need nerf in 2v2, it hardly call in to win, mostly used to counter isu/is2 or churchills, mostly in laney maps. |
I would even say in 2v2, panther is overrated.
Just watch this high level game, su85 and Jackson can shut down panthers and tiger.
Just play 2v2 and you understand 60 range and stock recon is more deterministic than panther 'high' hp armor
Panther turret main gun takes too long and since Allies TD got the hp buff, they can take on panther as much otherwise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFNaDrCqvvw |
what is this ram original intent you talk about?
it is not counter elefant or jt. it was just a fun ability. it was used to ram panthers and p4 too.
coh is known to try fun ability.
this patch is to exactly solve just that, to discourage build t3476 to ram heavies. but to encourage more general use of t3476 culmulating to having a choice to use the ram as a last resort fun ability disabling axis tanks.
now we just need to make t3476 cheaper and earlier for more general use. it is not a bad tank. it is fast, can crush and troll infantry. |
i will say sov strength is late game hold out.
the su85, mortar flare, call ins, 7man cons, katsuya. They work great in context of asymmetric armies for coh2, of course im talking 2v2 and team games.
As seen latest cast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFNaDrCqvvw |
Its not even gonna reach to target anymore, thats the problem. And if its at 50% hp and you repair it ram becomes unavailable again?
it will if you play it more aggressive. thats why a slight cost reduction is reccomended and also help with the t70 clutch unit meme. |
So what's the purpose of reverting the Pop change on the Churchhill infantry tank,
So here's the overview of the changes:
Ability to get tank commander (fairly minor buff)
A Pintle with 2 long range dps with VET 1 (Minor Buff, but it does help give Ai)
Reduced rear armor to 150.
19 --> 18 --> 19
How does any of this actually make the Churchhill infantry tank viable?
I'd also like to point out if the argument is that it's too tanky, then why does the Sturmtiger with veterancy get more hp and frontal armor yet only requires 18 pop.
How does any of this make sense?
The reason the change was implemented in the first place, is that the UKF already has insane pop cap requirements. It is the highest pop cost for an AI tank and yet it has some of the least effective AI for a tank intended in that role.
you cant compare sturmtiger to churchill bro!
i think a pop revert is fair with the tank commander and pintle upgrade now. |
Sorry but I doubt you have ever played with 222.
- 222 needs 2 AT gun shots to get destroyed. Only with Vet3 it gets some additional HP to survive 2nd gun shot
- fastest build is 4:40 minutes. (good fuel income, T1 skip)
- Autocannon has pretty low penetration of 35 (vs. AEC 63%, T70 50%, Stuart 44%) with very low damage of 20
It's by far not the strongest LV in early game. You can deal with it with every squad because all weapons can penetrate its armor. And the only LVs you can "chase and kill" are Soviet clown car, Universal Carrier, WC51, M20 and all Halftracks.
But you go high risk if you try to kill USF Flak HT or Soviet ZSU. Most of the times, you loose your 222.
In conclusion, learn your facts.
agree, 222 needs some love.
i suggest move vet3 hp to vet2 and give vet3 some new timed recon ability with muni required. |
good changes to the cons. they were too much against ost late games. and now with nerf vsl grens. anyway it is 10% only! that translates to how many in game chances? probably a minor nerf
can i suggest make t34/76 a bit cheaper like -20mp -5fu, so it can come slightly earlier and combine with t70 or su76. |