[Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback

Jump back to quoted post20 Dec 2020, 23:28 PMvgfgff

About T34-76.

Currently T-34-76
-Did not effective vs any tank even puma.

-It arrived time is in **Late game**[after PZIV].

-AI capability.
They are not good either.
panzer IV are far better in both roles.

-flanking.
Nope, They are slower than panther. and Its gun are unreliable with very bad moving ACC, low pen rate and damage.

-Ramming
Sucide Ability only temporary stunt target but powerful with IL-2 rocket. without IL-2. They generally use for stunt enemy tank . or use it to cover SU-85.
Now ramming need 50% hp or below so only more 2 hit while ramming they died. AT and panther have longer fire range so T34 will have high chance to get destroyed before they can hit enemy vehicles.




Suggestion about Ram changes.
-Need 60 Ammunition for Activate.
-Remove stunt but Garuntee engine damage.[IL-2 rocket won't be an issue anymore].

Jump back to quoted post20 Dec 2020, 20:16 PMVipper

What I would like to point out is that in WC2019 Soviet where not weak and once ostheer "crutch" commander are fixed they might prove to be ok.

Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2020, 01:17 AMmrgame2

Imo how about not only make t3476 cost less, make it build faster, but also t4 tech cost less, but make katty build longer to prevent arty too soon.

Imo too much emphasis on ram here.

Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2020, 06:26 AMMr Carmine

That would make the t34 and t4 to strong in 1v1. There ram is less of an issue because the t34 doesnt suck as much in 1v1, its damage output is noticable because it isent wrecked in seconds, because in turn axis recourse inflation is not at play in 1v1, thus panthers/tigers arent spammed.

Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2020, 07:42 AMvgfgff

Another suggestion for T4

Adjust soviet Tech 4 by separate Its price to
-building T4 for able to call t-34-76
then upgrade for unlock Su-85 and Kat..

Reason : T34-76 arrived time are too slow compare with other vehicle in same type that perform better.

Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2020, 07:54 AMVipper

It the other mediums that arrive to early not the T-34 that arrives to late.

https://www.coh2.org/topic/107166/medium-tanks

Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2020, 06:26 AMMr Carmine

That would make the t34 and t4 to strong in 1v1. There ram is less of an issue because the t34 doesnt suck as much in 1v1, its damage output is noticable because it isent wrecked in seconds, because in turn axis recourse inflation is not at play in 1v1, thus panthers/tigers arent spammed.

Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2020, 09:11 AMmrgame2

If it's 1v1, got to ask top players why they prefer earlier t70 and not t3476 when p4 is the preferred choice when using axis.

Still t3476 is not a bad unit itself. The timings just need a tweak. With t70 nerf, perhaps t3476 can see more trial uses

Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2020, 09:08 AMmrgame2

Not sure if relic wants to drag out the game by delaying medium as that would mean 60td and t4 heavies need push back too.

Just make t3476 a little earlier and cheaper at stug timings

Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2020, 09:11 AMmrgame2

If it's 1v1, got to ask top players why they prefer earlier t70 and not t3476 when p4 is the preferred choice when using axis.

Still t3476 is not a bad unit itself. The timings just need a tweak. With t70 nerf, perhaps t3476 can see more trial uses

Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2020, 18:05 PMLetzte Bataillon

Does anyone else find it strange that the KV-2 when mobile has the commander with binoculars looking out from the hatch, but when it sets down increasing to increase firing range the commander goes back down?

Should it not be the other way around?

I know this is a detail, but it always stuck out to me badly.

Grenade Package
We are merging Molotovs and AT grenade into one package. This will make both grenade abilities cheaper than they once were seperately.
- AT Grenades and Molotovs merged into "Grenade Package" upgrade found on the Soviet HQ.
Costs 150 manpower and 15 fuel

Tripwire Flare Mines
Given how cost effective Tripwire Flare mines thanks to their ability to inflict a model loss, provide vision, and are readily available on Conscripts and Combat Engineers, their cost is being increased to better reflect their performance.
- Cost from 10 to 15

Conscripts
The sandbag changes that were applied to the other factions will now apply to Conscripts in the early game to encourage more mobility and positioning. Conscripts will build items faster once they have veterancy as they are reliant on their sandbags during the mid-game period.
- Sandbag build time from 13 seconds to 18
- Veterancy 1 grants +35% increased build speed

Mobilize Reserves (Conscript Munition Upgrade)
- Reverted change to veterancy gain; now once again gain +20% veterancy when upgraded.

Mobilize Reserves (Global Upgrade)
The Mobilize Reserves changes for Conscripts and the Mechanized Armor Kampenya are being reverted. While the upgrade could have stood on its own, it did not give an incentive for players to rush towards their final tier. The bonus to Conscripts is also being removed.
- Changes to Conscript global veterancy reverted
- Reverted change to Mechanized Armor Kampenya; now grants upgrade for free for once more.

M5 Half-Track
The AA chance for the M5 are still being fine-tuned to be more reliable, without the ability to instant destroy planes.
- AA chance from 2% to 3%
- Gains 'Force Reload' ability when upgraded to the M5 Quad.

T-34 Ram Ability
The majority of changes to ram are being reverted. The main issues are linked to certain off-map abilities, though, we are replacing the complete stun ram provided to give vehicles hit by this ability some ability to maneuver out of off-maps.
- Reverted changed all changes; see below for updated list
- Ram inflicted criticals: Main Gun Destroyed, Heavy Engine Damage and Immobilized removed
- Ram no longer deals a complete stun on penetration and deflection. Instead, it will now slows target by 75% for 5 seconds and disables weapons.