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I am finding this works opposite to your goal. The more concise the post, the clearer the point usually is. Not to say I know much better, I have only started realizing this recently

But I dont understand your recommendation here. "Better AT" is too vague, and the only specific thing I see is the cheaper tech cost if you lose the building. To me you cant do that because you need the cost as part of the threat in order to balance the use of those buildings aggressively

The Rak could use buffs and nerfs and i think everybody agrees on that. Nerf/remove the camo, buff its AT performance/survivability more directly. Rather then relying on the cloak as a gimmick to make up for its shortcomings

Currently, I see that OKW suffers in both losing bases (which does cost a lot of fuel) and do not have potent enough AT units Raketenwerfer (which range is limited causing difficulties to support properly) and Sturmpio Pzshrek (not potent enough, should deal 240 damage within 8 seconds as most other AT infantry units but does only half 120 damage. Makes it overall lackluster).


Check this out, my comment number 25 regarding what better AT resolution is for OKW specifically and Why!

Here is the link: https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/245914/okw-all-raketenwerfer-43-anti-tank#latest

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Here is how I see this.

Either fix the bases costs and all the teching

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Fix them to have proper AT gear

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Because now it is 2 huge problems and there should be at least a distinct disadvantage but now for OKW, it is simply too much. Having difficulties both regarding Fuel and AT.

Fuel and AT are related in this game. There should at least be a difficulty in one of those areas and not both because that just causes a huge unbalance.

If you can not counter one or the other, then there is a problem. It must be looked over and resolved in a properly fashion.

Currently for the way it is now, OKW survive only in terms of AT barely by using Tanks (as their only main chance of survival) in PanzerHQ, without it, they will gradually lose for sure as their manpower will drain from enemy having better gear and being outgunned/outmatched.

Puma is ok but in late game, I would not consider it as a reliable vehicle for AT support. Neither can I say that currently for Raketenwerfer but that is the only best option there is for OKW. Sturmpio, well you know how it is!
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I think if it were to fix both, it might give OKW a huge distinctive advantage which I do not want! I would rather see one fix then later decide whether another is necessary or not! A gradual development is best for this game to get better!

I think what Fallshirmjager could do with is removing some of its current utilities for some abilities instead.

Currently they are the least effective elite unit. I do not why it is so but it is true.

If you take USF paratroopers for the same price I think, they decimate Fallshirm with the Thompson. Even with MG upgrade. They perform similarly without upgrade but USF paratroopers still has the upper hand. Shreds Fallshirms in a matter of seconds when close-mid range with Thompson "accuracy boost ability". Fallshirmjagers are indeed pretty bad in comparison.

I am not saying buff Fallshirmjagers, rather it should get some adjustments to suit better as an elite unit rather than some guy who has a bunch of stuff in their pockets and does not know exactly what to do with them.

Commando unit even does way better than Fallshirmjagers for the similar prices.

I think the current problem is, their camo function. Also due to having no abilities and boosters. Accuracy being (around 0.5-0.55 I believe) currently poor due to their high damage being 8. Adjustments are required!

I think Camo function should be the same as UKF Commando (when they ambush, they receive a slight accuracy boost within that period). Decrease their utility. To force them to use a certain play-style like Commandos which they were like. Especially they were the elite paratroopers.

Maybe remove both Pzfaust and Phosphorous for a dedicated AI unit role. Currently it suits neither purpose properly since it is undefined.

Currently as I have stated. Losing a Base, not only mean buying the truck but also reteching and to regain the ability to purchase units. Thus costing you twice as much. There is a lot of downsides with having the way OKW has with their "Truck and Teching System".

Here are reasons why I believe that other factions does somewhat stand out in certain areas than what OKW has to offer

UKF stands out better in fortifications! It can base lock (like OKW PanzerHQ) with the use of Bofors and emplacements creating heavy and better overall fortifications. Cost effective and little risk which makes it all than better than OKW has to lose.

USF stands out better in support weapons! Provides with very strong support weapons that can help cover ground efficiently. Captain base being very strong (the best USF tech choice) as it has all the tools required for pure territorial strength. Better than what OKW has to either offer with either Mech and Med combined.

SU stands out better in AT! Has very powerful AT unit choices especially doctrines that easily counter OKW Mechanized Tech. OKW infantry units cant carry the battle without upgrades since Volks are nothing without weapon upgrades. Heavily reliance is placed on vehicles and use of med kits. Drains excessively ammo and fuel at what cost.

The real main issue is their base teching system being overall unbalanced for their lacking AT capabilities. For the way it currently is, there should be discount for their base after it is destroyed for their lacking AT capabilities. As other factions have just the simplest ability to repair their buildings when destroyed for USF and UKF only. SU and WEHR have to replace but its cheaper and it never gets destroyed.

OKW bases is the only bases in game to ever get destroyed of them all. That is not skill, it is a fact. It is no skill if allied players effortlessly use "ARTY ABILITIES" onto a base, coordinating and focusing fire after one base after another.


OKW suffers in some aspects and how it would be if it were good enough:

1, Very Poor AT capabilities since the units are lackluster, both Raketenwerfer and Sturmpio AT upgrade in game. Does not make up for their losses. This is the main issue. Otherwise it is fine to justify for their difficulties. You can not have a faction with having one downside on top of having another downside on that same area, which is AT and fuel related for OKW in this case. It can not be both.

2, Heavily reliance on both ammo and fuel, fuel mostly. If you go Mech, you sacrifice a lot of ammo meaning Volks will have bolt actions only making them the least effective unit on the field. Volksgrenadiers are only good enough when they have upgrades. Without them, they are easily outmatched by other infantry.

If you go Med, you sacrifice territorial gains since FHT timing is the worst and its overall vulnerability. Vulnerable due to fact Raketenwerfer and Sturmpio AT roles being overall underperforming and lackluster. That explains why their are always easily countered.LEIG which is good but not enough to help in your favour because of the lack of AT (anti tank capabilities which OKW lacks). Med is always a bad teching choice in 1v1. Med Base could be actually a good choice if it were not for the poor and lacking AT utility OKW has got under their sleeves.

As I have said, AT is their main issue and should be resolved. To justify for their losses and inability to produce tanks if they lose any bases by an chance.

**Anti Tank, Anti Tank, Anti Tank :/ **

For me, what would make them justified without caches and refund at all is if they had proper enough AT which they do not have at all. Fuel is something they really desperately need in order to get any chance of having any survivability to counter for their lacking AT capabilities which is currently heavily undermined.

https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/245914/okw-all-raketenwerfer-43-anti-tank#latest
* Another post and look to comment 25# as to why both Raketenwerfer and Sturmpio how it should be changed to fit better as a proper self sufficient AT unit.

In Conclusion. Revamp both Raketenwerfer and Sturmpio AT to fit better their roles and to justify for their lacking capabilities. Then I would say, fine to no caches and no discount! If they have to counter the fuel issue, at least be able to counter the allied fuel superiority. OKW overall AT utility is the poorest or most undermined of all factions, the AT support weapon and Infantry AT unit being the worst. Not suitable enough as an AT unit.

It is not biased, it is a fact! Try Sturmpio out and you will say for certain, it is crap and so not worth it for its price also!

Raketenwerfer which is a sneaky assassin. It does simply play a supportive AT role. 270 manpower, there should actually be more but its crap. For 280 manpower for a USF AT gun is simply 2-3 times better than Rak alone.

Devs, reevaluate this and consider for the lacking proper AT utility OKW has to counter effectively enough for their problems. Then I am fine with bases being destroyed and no refund and no caches. Now it is simply unjustified because they are really undermined!

Fix their AT issue and maybe then consider removing King Tiger. Depends on what you guys think! To make it for fun instead. You can maybe decide any of unit of choice in base late game. For a Hetzer Flame or Ostwind or Brummbar.


I apologise for this being long but I have done this for the sake of clarity and for clear reasons! Why I write this is because I believe this is what needs adjusting. For those who take the time to read it and share their views. I really do appreciate your feedback and for your time!

I take it you don't remember the roving anti-everything Volksblobs of Doom.

The STG upgrade was created specifically to remove it from the game completely.

PGren Panzershrecks can only be purchased in pairs for a similar reason.

Yes, that was a pretty bad idea that I suggested there with Volks having the Pzshrek.

But the reason why I said that is because Sturmpio's AT role is currently lackluster. That is why I said that.

It would be actually more preferable to give them 2 Panzerbursche instead for 60 or 70 ammo. To make it diverse and potent enough to suit better their AT role which they fail to attain. To make them potent enough which they currently are not good enough.

T34 is perfectly fine as it is. That would simply remove T70 or even any T3 units rendering it useless.

It is fine as it currently is in my opinion as it is a good tank for its price and performance especially timing.

I do agree also the T34-85 should be non-doc. SU cheap version approach to Panther although it is nowhere near it. That would be interesting to see.