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Thread: OKW September patch discussion18 Aug 2019, 13:38 PM I tried out the September patch as OKW. It felt surprisingly different and better. Feels more smooth and fun. No frustration and limitations as before, I feel Raketenwerfer Feels more like a better support weapon now, less frustrating to use. It is simply a way better improvement. Not cheesy anymore, more fun to use. No frustration feelings anymore for both Axis and Allies anymore. 5 man really solves their survivability issue. Removal of retreat is fair and a just decision. Camo nerfed is definitely a good change. Though I feel it needs something: Either improve its "Delay" (like decreasing its time since it is nearly triple the length of other AT guns) or decrease the "Reload" time a bit. Just to make it a better AT support gun. Early game Feels different, cant acquire the Volks as quickly as I had used to due to the changes made. Makes you resort to getting one Kubel in some way to counter the delay effectively. Reduces the effectiveness of Volks spamming. Early gameplay is different now. Truck price changes are nice, it is better Starting manpower has some effect and the price on volks increase means decrease in Volks spamming early game anymore. Teching Feels like an improvement overall. The fact Obers can be acquired earlier, by choice, is a nice thing. Do you agree though, with locking the MG34 upgrade for Obers behind PzHQ tech upgrade? Flak Halftrack price decrease does not really bring much incentive but the changes on Raketenwerfer does as it helps better fulfill the role of AT support better. Flak Halftrack is in my opinion, not that good when vet 0 or 1, since it is inconsistent and not too accurate. Only vet 2, then it becomes good which is pretty bad timing. PanzerHQ upgrade costs 40 fuel, not bad. Maybe the last base can be cheaper at the cost of upgrading is higher. Say Base is 70 fuel instead and upgrade 50 fuel Instead. Just a suggestion. Sturmpio Simply a great change. Scales so much better, you can actually depend on using that unit for combat also, which is simply a great change. Vet fix and adjusted for scaling better performance, GOOD JOB. They are now a competent combat unit, reliable, viable more than before. Simply plays a good role. Especially when vet 1 grenade arrives instead is a good change. Vet 3 grenade arrival was simply ridiculous. Changes to Doctrines, Overall Effect Fallshirmjagers, feels different but improved, more reason to use them now since they are actually more viable espeically when their price decreased accordingly. Before, it was simply terrible, price and performance simply did not match. It is viable now. I believe Feuersturm will be the next, if not the best doctrine if the September patch was actually released since that would incredibly enhance their overall infantry firepower. Especially support weapons. What changes do I believe it needs Raketenwerfer, to improve either its "Delay" (like decreasing its time since it is nearly triple the length of other AT guns) or decrease the "Reload" time. Just to make it a better AT support gun. Starting Manpower: Volks, do you guys think the reinforce cost should be increased accordingly to adjust to its new set price? Might be necessary, now since other infantry units in OKW has been improved. OR Change its starting MP to the decided Sep Patch 320 manpower starting to 300 instead. Might help effectively more, if only deemed necessary to decrease the early strength. ___________ All in all, I like the September patch. It is enjoyable and most of the changes will stay. I like the changes on the Sturmpio and Raketenwerfer best. It was a necessary change. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: USA September patch discussion16 Aug 2019, 22:53 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 20:32 PMStug life ROLF dude it’s outdated by 3 years , they removed all the stats changes at vet 4 and 5 Basically take only the vet 1 to 3 They should really get those stats updated. Instead, I have to dig all through the patch just to find one units stats. Possibly mixed in different places. It would be nice if someone could update it, right? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: IR halftrack OP in teamgames16 Aug 2019, 22:46 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 22:33 PMKatitof You... are aware of what kubel vet1 does and that its there since forever? @Balanced_Gamer just because a faction is bloated with units that grant sight/intel advantage doesn't mean these are recon units. Kubel inherited that role through redesigns, but the only REAL recon for OKW stock army is IRHT. Of course. Though, you cant deny, Rak is very a chessy unit because of its ("the one ring" disguise) mobile camo ability is terribly designed. Granting free sight (free recon ability) and pure backstabbing abilities which is batshit frustratingly designed. For both Axis and Allies. Mostly filled the recon role along with cheeky designs. Still a pretty shitty AT support weapon though but good at being cheesy/cheeky. Good thing that it is going to be changed to fill better the boots of a proper AT support unit instead. Kubel Map Detection is pretty acceptable. It is somewhat a decent, not overwhelming, but functions fine, dont you think? Kubel plays a definitely a decent role as support and harrasing (not so much in team games however) The real recon master and knows it all kind of unit is undeniably the IRHT (Eye of Sauron). In: COH2 Balance
Thread: IR halftrack OP in teamgames16 Aug 2019, 22:36 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 22:31 PMaerafield Thats because the majority of casual players have lack of knowledge about it. They dont know how closet OP it actually is, they dont know about its insane maphack bug. Due to medic HQs being kinda irrelevant in the current 1v1 meta, the popular streamers dont really know about the IR HT either. It's also banned in most tournaments on Twitch ---> many people dont know about the unit (which is good) Just saying that many do not about it, it is just something really to laugh about. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: September Balance Patch preview [SPBP] - general discussion16 Aug 2019, 22:26 PM With OKW as it stands with bases and tech features. If Rak is improved to properly counter tanks, which is should be changed to being a proper AT unit unit rather than a cheesy unit (as it is with the camo and frustrating mechanics). Than it is more balanced then for bases to have no refunds when lost. Must have something to properly counter Vehicles when you have no Tanks available. Makes sense right. Before or still as of now, If your base is destroyed, mainly the PanzerHQ, you are definitely screwed. Game over for OKW. Namely because Raketenwerfer sucked at doing its job, in doing its AT duties. Design was and still is terrible. As OKW currently, without its Tanks, there is no (no such thing as) proper AT. You are simply screwed. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: IR halftrack OP in teamgames16 Aug 2019, 22:06 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 19:20 PMpvtgooner Your posts are almost unreadable because of all the bold, italics and underlining. OKW is pretty much a faction that really focus too much on recon areas than on more essential departments. Reasons why Rak failed in design of being a decent AT role unit is because of the heavy focus on the Recon department. That really killed its definitive role. Kubel has recon, that is why it was possibly crap for some time. Still think it could be removed for something else instead like maxims ability "Sustained fire". Would make it different and more suitable.In med base having another recon unit which is the IR halftrack. 3 units fills more the roles of recon than they actually do in performing their actual AT and AI roles. Rak failed in being proper AT as it was clearly designed more for recon (which really sucks). Kubel failed in being a proper support unit because of the recon ability. Although it is better now than it used to be. IR Halftrack maybe should be replaced for some other unit. It is really not used that often, only in team games just sometimes. It is still 1/3 a chance you even encounter IRHT just in team games. Not that common at all. More reason to replace it with something that has more use especially in game mods like 1v1 and 2v2. I would like to use medbase more often but it really lacks choices. Sometimes there is really only 1 choice to pick from depending on the map and scenario. IRHT should be doctrinal. There should be some other unit instead to perform in the roles of AI or something Any suggestions for which unit should be there instead? Is it better now without the bold, italics and underlining? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Soviet September patch discussion16 Aug 2019, 21:54 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 21:06 PMAcidfreak complete playlist link: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHp03z6K6cRdIbxT6I9dIXIrhrcWbnAKy Falls were never good. "Jack of all trades, masters of none" kind of unit. Was not even good in one thing. Has much utility, that is it. Their accuracy is rather poor according to stats and they cost too much like around 360-380 manpower. Terrible investment. Obers, Jager Lights and even Volks have clearly been, the proper performing units. Falls, just bottom on the list. __________ Back to Soviet topic. I think the doctrinal Airborne guards should still get the parachute drop since it has that indicator. It is supposed to be an airborne unit, right? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: UKF September patch discussion16 Aug 2019, 21:45 PM Has anyone tested how the Comet performs now? Is it better in AI than it used to be before. To be honest, I still think it is chessy having the phosphorous shot with the Comet, it should be removed in trade for better AI performance instead. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW September patch discussion16 Aug 2019, 21:41 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 19:22 PMDangerous-Cloth He says they are superb at moving around cloaked 2 at a time and hunting that lone tank and kill it in the blink of an eye. They however suck as a dedicated at gun as they are squishy. The raketten werfer excels at cheese whilst failing at what it is supposed to do as a core at-gun unit lol... That is undeniably true about how it is. Good at being chessy while fails hard at fulfilling as a proper AT gun unit. Thank you for clarifying it for me. Appreciated. Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 20:16 PMthedarkarmadillo What aboutingle Shrek, vehicle detection and AT satchel and reduced repair speed Vehicle detection is already with Kubel. Does not make sense to have another unit with the same ability. Reduced repair, really, why. Royal Engineers nor Sappers have to sacrifice either of their repairs. I would go for AT satchel in combination with 1 Pzschreck could fit. My reason as to why is: It would at least create this caution or awareness feeling about the enemy. It would make the opponent think twice instead of going mindlessly through the Sturmpio without second thoughts as it does currently now. Has to have that feeling and output, the possibility that it is a risk for the opponent rather than no risk at all. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW September patch discussion16 Aug 2019, 18:17 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 18:08 PMgbem the rak is terrifying tank hunter..... but an awful AT gun... it needs to be the latter not the former What are you saying? Are you saying it needs to be a better AT or are you stating that it is going to be a worse AT gun. In: COH2 Balance