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Thread: Rear Echelon, to be more supportive and viable ?26 Aug 2019, 12:38 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Aug 2019, 11:37 AMGbpirate I don't think this is a good idea because REs have their own abilities and uses in the game as others pointed out. The only time I see an issue is when you choose a commander that has specific RE upgrades like the flamethrower because it complicates the RE's combat role The most efficient role for REs is as an AT squad w/ double zooks because the additional sweeper doesn't reduce the combat effectiveness of the squad vs. armoured vehicles and at vet 3 they get a fifth man to increase survive-ability. This efficiency is increased when accounting for other squads that could have bazookas; LT and Captain have a Thompson, so a double BAR on those squads augments the close range DPS of their SMGs. Riflemen are expensive and have good anti-infantry DPS when upgraded. The Major has too little models to be an effective combat squad. REs can take advantage of their volley fire ability when they're equipped with BAR(s)/M1919 but, again, you're better off putting those upgrades on your riflemen or other combat infantry squads like rangers or airborne. With the flamethrower or the rifle grenade package, you're sacrificing DPS if you get zooks or a minesweeper so if you want 4x zooks on the field you're forced to either build an extra RE squad or put zooks on other squads that would be better off in an anti-infantry role. Of course, the LT and Captain provide some utility with their smoke grenades disabling the main guns of enemy tanks if fired directly at them (but REs have this too), and the Captain's fire up ability can help get squads to a position faster to snare or fire more zooks. Perhaps on less open map the RE upgrades make them better for the flamethrower/rifle grenade package and you'd rather get zooks, but riflemen are just real good at mid range with upgrades. The only time you could get a better zook squad than REs is with the airborne support squad that gets the camo w/ the zook upgrade. tl;dr REs are best at being an AT squad with zooks because of the attributes of the squad as well as the attributes of other squads in the USF faction. Did I miss something in my argument here? No, you did not miss any points. I was just thinking about Rear Echelons more than other engineers since others have many role fulfillments. The best designed engineers I must say in this game is Wehr Pio and SU Engineer because they have 2 clear distinctive roles, and some which they will recieve from the update soon. 1.- Mine Sweeper and the fact they fill the role of better repairs (soon with the upcoming update) and clearing mines. 2.- Flamethrower which is the best design, mainly used as a support and effectively used to throw away the bonuses the enemy recieves when behind cover and in buildings. The next best Engineer and yet broken is UKF Royal Engineers. Can pretty much do anything up to fulfilling either the role of a AI supporter or AT unit. Soon Sturmpio is getting some deserved changes, such as filling more a suitable scaling role in combat. Surely a change that makes it yet more viable. But Rear Echelons, I am not so sure since they are not recieving much changes in order for them to be utilized more often. *Here is a different idea:* What if Rear Echelons can acquire themselves with either the Bars and Bazookas already in the beginning without weapon tech. The tech for "unlocking weapon racks" is meant only for other classes. The unlocking purchase should be purposely used as for mid-late game scale and increased infantry superiorty. The tech locks purposely any other form of USF infantry except Rear Echelons only. Rear Echelons should be able acquire them early ignoring/without the need to tech. Since the timing of most other mobile infantry ATs are accessible more early without much cost, the fact that is not a great AI unit, it is more designed a supportive unit role. Another interesting thing would be also, if Rear Echelons could acquire Bars early too but instead they will recieve a 30-40% discount on Bars only. In this way, to improve support and for a more effective use with "Surpressive Fire" since it only get better the more useful the weapons are! This would definitely be a better change in order to make Rear Echelons, in this way, more popular. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: OKW September patch discussion21 Aug 2019, 09:58 AM Falls are pretty shit the way they are. The camo is just a disguise without real function, same goes for the Luchs but I am going to stick to the topic. Falls fail often miserably because its accuracy is not good enough, being worse off than most other Axis infantry. Falls accuracy is even worse than Ostruppen, lol. Even the DPS is worse, than other users. Short, Medium, Long, not good really in any currently. That is how shitty they are. There is simply other no others words to describe it. Of course there is other factors that describe its performance but I believe accuracy is its main issue. I would say remove some of its the smoke grenade for better camo effect, such as accuracy bonus ambush. Might help compensate for its lacking accuracy and make it yet viable. Camo accuracy boost, through ambush, is something Falls really need. OR Just give them in general focus fire, shooting 1 model at the time to compensate for its terrible accuracy is something they could have instead. It would finally make them viable. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Maxim redesign redirect thread21 Aug 2019, 09:25 AM Maybe Maxim surpression should stay but it should have something to compensate for its lacking surpression. Well, most of you are aware that when a unit is surpressed, the accuracy on the supressed unit becomes lower meaning harder to hit. What I am thinking is, if Maxim manages to surpress the unit, the Maxim will still able to hit the unit by ignoring the accuracy multiplier on the unit being surpressed. The yellow supression, accuracy multiplier be ignored for Maxim only. Make it unique in this way also. It only be for maxim still 1x (times) mutliplier (unchanged its accuracy) while others suffer a multiplier as they currently by 0.5. It wont suffer like other MGs at all, not hitting targets properly while surpressed but Maxim out of all MGs can. I think this is a good idea, avoids spamming but yet makes it viable. It would be one of the MGs that be best at killing models faster, yet is able in some way to suppress. Just to properly counter enemy units better with killing them faster, at the same time being able to surpress. To force the enemy to retreat way more frequently due to the damage heavily sustained even while being surpressed. Probably or maybe even consider improving its accuracy better than other MGs against units that are even retreating. Just to cause more a frightening effect yet a devastating effect. Since Maxim out of all MGs would be most effective at doing that! To increase its overall efficiency. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Luchs changes according to its ideal role!21 Aug 2019, 09:15 AM Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2019, 14:41 PMLago That is what it's for. The static fire support turret is the Flak HT. Well, Flakhalftrack provides purely suppression and some form of damage output (the damage which is not good until you get vet 2). It would be fine to have another unit of similar characteristics. Luchs provides instead which I would imagine, better firesupport due to more consistent shots, thus better damage output. That is something really FlakHT fails to provide. So, it does not matter really if there is already something similiar. The point is, it does not make sense to make a unit any different from its actual design because of a unit that already has something similiar. Like having 2 Ronaldos in FIfa but making one of them play like Messi. ' Does not really make sense does it, to put it away from its actual playstyle. Regardless whether there is 2 units are to be alike. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Rear Echelon, to be more supportive and viable ?20 Aug 2019, 14:31 PM Maybe Echelons instead should provide since they stay a lot behind the action, provide a booster to their support weapons. Provides the USF AT gun with a minor boost in terms of penetration only. The more Echelons near AT guns, the better the penetration will be. Solves in some ways their penetration, support AT gun issue. USF AT gun is undeniably one of the best AT guns, best at dealing with lights most definitely and mediums. Heavies, not so much. That is its major con. So this idea might help improve their chances. When Echelons near a HMG, provides a reload boost. Something minor since their MG is great overall. When Echelons near a small mortar, provides reload boost but when near a Pack Howizter, it provides instead better movement speed. Just so Echelons can provide better and be somewhat useful even behind the action. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Luchs changes according to its ideal role!20 Aug 2019, 14:28 PM Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2019, 14:21 PMLago The Luchs already works this way. Its moving damage isn't great, and it goes through the roof when you hit stop. In some ways, but by its current sign, it promotes too much aggressiveness and being up close. Since the damage output is not that good in medium or long range. Only short distance does it go through the roof. Thus, it is designed heavily in this game as an aggressive designed unit. So, I does not really work as much as by its actual design. I does not play much supportive or recon much, it is too much in favour of aggression. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: USA September patch discussion20 Aug 2019, 14:23 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Aug 2019, 23:38 PMArray Sounds like a recipe for more blobbing Actually that is true. Maybe Echelons instead should provide since they stay a lot behind the action, provide a booster to their support weapons. Provides the USF AT gun with a minor boost in terms of penetration only. The more Echelons near AT guns, the better the penetration will be. Solves in some ways their penetration, support AT gun issue. USF AT gun is undeniably one of the best AT guns, best at dealing with lights most definitely and mediums. Heavies, not so much. That is its major con. So this idea might help improve their chances. When Echelons near a HMG, provides a reload boost. Something minor since their MG is great overall. When Echelons near a small mortar, provides reload boost but when near a Pack Howizter, it provides instead better movement speed. Just so Echelons can provide better and be somewhat useful even behind the action. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Luchs changes according to its ideal role!20 Aug 2019, 14:15 PM Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2019, 01:38 AMIncendiaryRounds You can see from a mile away. He wants a flak HT without the setup time. It is not about wanting something alike Flakhalftrack. I have already stated how and why. Luchs was also similar that in way, it never shot on the move, rather it remained stationary (for total precision, since moving was inadvisable) as a support AI infantry unit since it was purposely used as a reconnaissance unit, and even for infantry support. Reconnaissance meant also surveying in a distance, since armour (was weak and often stayed out of sight but used infantry engagements) could never such as Luchs in this instance, survey closely. Infantry ahead, Luchs behind. That is how it was. It would make sense especially by design, change it into a more ideal AI supportive and recon role. It does not by its current design fit the recon role at all. Camo function is pretty much undefined, broken and it does not definitely suit as a recon unit as described. I would say, remove the Camo completely for just better sight instead. Change Aggressive gameplay in favour for more distant support, in this way, make it also viable late game which it currently never is. The style change of play, would also affect its cheesy effectiveness early gameplay and make it a more fun and less frustrating unit to play with. For the sake of diversity and pure gameplay rather than raw cheesiness. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Rear Echelon, to be more supportive and viable ?19 Aug 2019, 22:53 PM Click here - I feel they need to be changed more, to make it a more of a viable combat/supportive unit. It should the kind of unit that supports infantry more, like providing Riflemen a passive booster in reload and rate of fire. Provides passive ability near their allies but not themselves! My idea is since Rear Echelons itself was not a good combat unit, it sure was a more a support unit. Rear Echelons when near infantry or Riflemen in this instance, gives allies a passive booster, should provide faster reload and rate of fire. The passive ability should be called "Brothers at Arms". Something that provides a boost in their performance. Since Rear Echelons cant do much other than support I think it should do that. Also, the more Echelons you get, the better the passive ability will become. Having 2 (only when together near other infantry) Rear Echelons alongside infantry or Riflemen, will further enhance reload and rate of fire, but also provides now an accuracy bonus. Having even 3 will further improve their combat superiority, not to themselves but to others! WHY? Since you trade Riflemen for more Echelons, it should not in this way cost you necessarily your AI performance, rather improve their Sheer quality it provides to Riflemen instead of the favour of quantity. Thus, creates an incentive drive for getting more Echelons. How is this of an idea? *EDIT* - This was not so great an idea (the idea stated above), my apologies. Here is a different better idea instead in order to make Echelons, utilized more!: What if Rear Echelons can acquire themselves with either the Bars and Bazookas already in the beginning without weapon tech. The tech for "unlocking weapon racks" is meant only for other classes. The unlocking purchase should be purposely used as for mid-late game scale and increased infantry superiorty. The tech locks purposely any other form of USF infantry except Rear Echelons only. Rear Echelons should be able acquire them early ignoring/without the need to tech. Since the timing of most other mobile infantry ATs are accessible more early without much cost, the fact that is not a great AI unit, it is more designed a supportive unit role. Another interesting thing would be also, if Rear Echelons could acquire Bars early too but instead they will recieve a 30-40% discount on Bars only. In this way, to improve support and for a more effective use with "Surpressive Fire" since it only get better the more useful the weapons are! This would definitely be a better change in order to make Rear Echelons, in this way, more popular. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: USA September patch discussion19 Aug 2019, 22:49 PM Just that it was further mentioned but I end it there. What I also wanted to mention, it regards Rear Echelons. I feel they need to be changed more, to make it a more viable combat unit. It should the kind of unit that supports infantry more, like providing Riflemen a passive booster in reload and rate of fire. My idea is since Rear Echelons itself was not a good combat unit, it sure was a more a support unit. Rear Echelons when near infantry or Riflemen in this instance, should provide faster reload and rate of fire. The passive ability should be called "Brothers at Arms". Something that provides a boost in their performance. Since Rear Echelons cant do much other than support I think it should do that. Also, the more Echelons you get, the better the passive ability will become. Having 2 Rear Echelons alongside infantry or Riflemen, will further enhance reload and rate of fire, but also provides accuracy bonus. Thus, creates an incentive drive for getting more Echelons. How is this of an idea? In: COH2 Balance