Profile of SeductiveCardbordBox

It seems the rat is cornered and the only escape goat it has its to give excuses and pre made arguments no one called for...
No one mentioned IR double bar until you did.

Please dont derail threads anymore.

Dear god you're insufferable.

IR in this context is a shorthand way of referring to IncendiaryRounds, the other person in this ongoing tooth pulling of a discussion. The slightest amount of competence would have made that self evident.

Don't get so smug about your own lack of reading comprehension, it's embarrasing


All of which is little impact on the fundementals:

A) The MG42 imo is in a good spot
B) Every other MG falls short of the MG42
C) Either the others need to be made more cost effective or the MG42 needs to bump in price
D) Grenadiers are not a reason to not implement this change

Although realism comes second to balance, having maxim and Lmg in the same sentence sound more like a joke. Water cooled mg where nothing but light (maxim was around 64Kg) and turning maxim to an "lmg" would be completely unrealistic.

Not to mention that the soviets HAVE a light machine gun, already in the game files. Why would you opt for a maxim?

Yes, your right, at max range the g43 pzerfusiliers are on par, but they're doctrinal, arrive at cp2, cost 10mp more but 30 munis less so they actually cost similarly to double bar riflemen. LOL, lmg42 grens outperform DOUBLE bar riflemen at medium range??!!! You'll be very lucky to even match up against double bar rifles at max range let alone medium range. If lmg grens match double bar riflemen at midrange, nobody would bother getting a microintensive hmg42.

This isn't me joking around. The LMG is a long range weapon with a very low dropoff. The LMG grens lose handily at close range but match at 20-25 and from 25+ they preform better.

G43's also more or less match double BAR rifles at all ranges. They're a little less dps across the board, but come with no weapon drops chance and a 6th man for slower damage depreciation.

Not to mention that 2cp for Fusi's is absolutely on par with, approximately, the earliest that any USF player is going to have teched for BARs and also had the 120 muni to double upgrade a single squad. Double bar rifles are A) not as good as you profess and B) not on the field for quite some time.

There is a lot to comment on, because there is a whole lot that went badly for you that game.

You lost at 15 minutes when one of your team dropped - you can't 3v4 unless your opponents are awful. The rest of the fight was a losing battle.

Your team could use some work on the basics. Don't move their infantry as one big blob, don't stand in open cover in big groups near mortar pits.

You had a fine early game in the mid and north but you never even countested the south. That resource advantage for your opponents is a big help for them building up fast.

You also played directly into the strengths of your brit opponents. You have already neglected a chunk of the map, and then you all do a back and forth front line combat in the range of their mortar emplacements and bofors. Congregating around those emplacements was a terrible idea. You would have been better served redirecting south and clearing out their defences there, which would have made the emplacements worthless in the short term. If they invest that heavily into a single defensive spot, ignore it, because it can't move. Come back once you have a better set of tools to deal with it.


Generally, in 4v4, indirect fire is an absolute must. You did reasonably well against the sim city once you had a couple of LeiGs in place and, really, would have done just fine if you let them bleed MP and sapper time and didn't feed your own infantry into the emplacements.

If you see simcity, go firesturm, since you have it. The LeiG flame rounds munch on emplacements like buttery hotcakes and are extra deadly for troops trying to repair while under fire.

All in all? Keep practicing, don't lose a whole chunk of the map, and be willing to change the direction of your attack of it goes poorly in one spot.


And pick a commander before 7cp!

U didn't read my damn post. Cons don't face double upgraded inf. They have the least firepower in a vacuum...

Volks don't get better RA then grens.
Grens have 0.91 RA out of the gate as well.
Later vet RA also favors grens.
Most of DPS focused on 1 model which focuses on opposing models is superior then 2 lower dps weapons focusing on different targets, because you will not be dropping models as reliably and opponent will have higher chance to lose just health instead of models, so no, dual weapons aren't really superior in the way you think you are...

To add on a little more context - the days of grens having to face 'double upgraded' squads are a thing of the past, in terms of imbalance.

BARs and Brens have both been nerfed and it is no longer possible to equip a squad with double M1919's.

On top of that, the squads cons face don't need to be threatened with 'double upgrades' because almost every combat squad in the game starts off condierably better at combat than them. Fusiliers, JLI, Obers, Grenadiers and Volks all get a single weapon upgrade (with 1-4 guns included in the package) that throws the balance of what they have to fight substantially more dramatically than a rifle squad with two BARs.

So yeah. You're picking and choosing totally arbitraty goalpoasts and comparisons.

Either the other HMGs need buffs or the MG42 should cost 280, beacse right now it is indisputably the best in the long run. Let us not mention the DshK.

To loop back to an earlier post, I'm in favour of the other Mgs getting some much needed love. See AP round tweaks, gimmick brit vet, maxim being bad.