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Apparently the rationale for the armour nerf is because the live UC clobbers Ostheer.

As I say it makes point 2 I made in the OP worse, brit players don't want a expensive MP unit with half the survivability of a flamer HT. They just want a decent flame platform and axis want to not be forced into AT gun at the earliest opportunity

I think a timing change and health buff would solve that

This thread is inspired by the recent changes and complaints from players on both sides. As I see it the unit has two problems

1. It hits the field early and can drain OKW until they are forced into early AT gun. (This patch has tried to fix it by further nerfing it's survivability in armour, but this has made issue 2 worse)

2. Brit players complain it dies too easy midgame and it's too fragile as your only flame platform. Compare flamer HT health and armour to WASP and you'll see why.


I propose to make UC a T1 unit unlocked with AEC or Bofor tech and add a fuel cost mirroring wehr HT. Possibly also and put the flame projector up to 80muni.

BUT in return mirror UC health and armour with wehr flame HT. For bren upgrade give it double accuracy vs sniper and make the MG ability free with a 1 minute cooldown.


This would make the UC a real risk vs reward unit and delay bolster or AEC if you opt for it. The timing would place it around the same time as 222 or luch so there's plenty of axis counterplay.

Brits get a bit more building clearance ability and OKW can play crossing on the woods without bring munched by a UC the first 4 minutes

Thoughts?

I think the armour changes on the UC while fine with rifles make it too easy to finish off with automatic weapons.

Compare flamer HT armour to UC and you'll see what I mean. Flanking Sturm or pgren can really just solo one if you catch it on an urban map. While flamer HT will barely take 5% damage

Imo buff it to flamer HT levels with WASP but slap on a fuel cost. This would also help timing issues of early vehicles

The vet is poor and built around barrages because every indirect vet is like that since the big indirect fire balance patch

USF mortar, wehr mortar, Soviet mortar, Brit paradrop mortar all have similar vet. If you buff leig vet with stuff like extra auto attack range or RoF then what's the point of the balance team going through all that testing and rebalancing?

You're just reverting the game to leigfest or 120mm parked racking up 40+ kills again

Pathfinders
Unit with elite weapon should not be available this early.
The I&R barrage is simply to powerful of its time frame, it drops way too fast and it can easily kill Paks creating problems for Ostheer to deal with the Stuart.


Suggestions:
Lower the price of unit at 240 and have them start with Garand and have the carbines scoped carbines be an upgrade.

That would allow easier access to the units without making them spammable while allow USF opening with more units.

Lock I&R behind tech or upgrade toned it down to mortar barrage HE/Smoke barrage and make it cheaper.
The the ability will be easier to use but with proportional impact.

If what you described was accurate and they are so OP Ost have no counter vs them and Stuart we would see them built every game.

But they're still kind of rare, traditional Pak howi is much more reliable. Noone is going to call in I&R for a smoke barrage, you can just click Pershing doc and have it as a non unit ability.

Btw the cast time if I&R arty is similar to OKW tank arty both are the fastest in the game, is that OP for killing ZiS?