Profile of HoverBacon

@CombatWombat Sorry, I probably wasn't specific enough for a lot of it as I was aware how long my post was getting.

No, I never garrison my MG either, I garrison a squad of Tommies in a trench on the capture point, backed up by my Vickers, with the tommies garrisoned, they must clear the trench in order to cap the point, as long as you watch for grenades as you should be doing anyway, it means you have to reinforce your men less as they take significantly less damage. Sturmpioneers are not a counter to this, sturmpioneers have enormous hit boxes and get cut down by tommies when entrenched even at point blank range providing you are prioritising targets well. If they grenade you, just step out of the trench and then get back in and If they incendiary, you, they can't incendiary your vickers. Congratulations, they played themself.

I do rely on my UC a lot early game, yes, although I never have the problems you stated really. If you are getting fausted you're too close or not microing it properly and if they rush at, congrats, they're down an infantry squad, rush them and it's gg for them. A lot of my strat essentially works off coercing the enemy into having to take certain counters to me so I can predict what I'm facing next. I force them to take early at, and I force them to take tank destroyers rather than tanks, It means you know what to expect and If they don't take that, they don't counter you. I nearly always get a 3 star UC in games often with 20 kills or so. The thing is cheap as hell anyway, even on the off chance I do lose it early, it's cheaper than replacing infantry. It's never useless, only a fool takes axis AT straight off the bat, they need the infantry or tommies will just cut them down, later on if I do face at, I use it to help allies or backstop enemy advances.

I like royal engineers due to the avre mostly, it punishes blobbing as any blobbing idiot should be punished but more importantly, it wipes their veterancy. As Brits you must keep on top of their veterancy or your infantry can't do their job. Especially on Volksgrenadiers.

I agree with you about the centaur if they recon spam, however right now, due to the price decrease I would take the cromwell over it nearly every time if I do need an early tank, like I said I normally prefer to risk fighting an early P4 without a tank, using mines and at guns, in favour of saving for a churchill. Recon plane spam I wouldn't say is a problem early game (i.e.- when you get your first tank) as they lack the CP to use it effectively. Although I would much rather an ally invest 40 fuel in an aa halftrack than me invest 100 in aa. Although if I do I normally just make it a command vehicle anyway as the centaur strafing fire is all you really need it for anywway.

Like I said with the UC, with the churchills: Sure they can build 2 at guns to counter you if they want but they're sacrificing infantry again, you can just waltz into them with infantry or shell them out (although multiple times I've just killed 2 at guns with my churchill anyway because I still insist it is amazing, maybe people are just bad idk) Jagdpanzer is best counter I guess? but when backed up by a 6 pdr it just doesn't have the dps or pen to do any real damage before your 6 pdr forces it to go repair.

I personally prefer to destroy enemy team weapons, other than maybe the MG42, I prefer my men to be able to move otherwise they'll just spam mortars at you and that hurts with team weapons because that's axis 101 right now.

I agree about the 17 pdr, It's difficult to field although I'm not sure It does lose to an elefant? I've never seen that, no elefant sticks around long enough. Thing is, you don't actually need to support it that well, it costs 70 fuel for christ's sake XD it's basically disposable, if every time you build one it kills a panther and dies, it's still profitable for you. Point is, it stops them TD creeping which is extremely dangerous.

I've also been using commando reg recently and yeah commandos are great but it can be risky, they cost a lot to reinforce so if you start bleeding, you bleed hard. I've been using them a lot with 1 piat recently, as 4 stens/3 and a bren is normally good enough, especially late game when the map is covered in craters, you can sneak them all the way round and start assassinating rocket artillery/ low health retreating tanks with them.

P.S.- this convo is a great idea, plugging holes and optimising each others strats etc.

@thedarkarmadillo Yeah it isn't much to get your first howitzer as Brits, but it is totally useless without either the second howitzer and airburst or concentration barrage. By the time you have the second howitzer you have payed over twice the price of 2 LefH's for something less good. The only salvation is that you have to pay that if you want to field anything other than infantry all game.

You pay not very much for basically... not very much.

And it costs you a lot of munitions to fire, and unless you are royal artillery it can only fire where you can get infantry sections to, also if you are firing through royal artillery, you STILL need recon to fire it and it costs over twice as much to fire. It doesn't kill anything alone, meanwhile axis (and soviets) pay twice of 'not very much' for a very very potent machine that fires for free AND fire into fog of war AND at vet 1 basically nullifies all mortars and other howitzers.

when you build such static gun...you can bet that it will be destroyed per callins arty from any allie player...so no...

What arty call-ins? no arty call-in can be casted through fog of war, if you build the howitzer in your base and have Anti-air, a recon plane will not make it to the howitzer to reveal it. Yes you can expect it to get destroyed eventually because people bust their gut to do so or they lose, it only costs 50 fuel, if you get 20 kills or so with it and have prevented cap for 5-10 minutes the thing has paid for it's self and you can build another one.

That is a bit inaccurate.

"Early warning" is a Recon

"Concentration barrage" is practically an "Off map" for all practical purposes (it is simply delivered from on map indestructible guns). It can be used to destroy an on map artillery piece.

Honestly I wouldn't really count early warning as "recon", it only flares 'some' frontline sectors and is totally random and costs 60 munitions, I use it, but only from desperation due to lack of anything decent. It's next to useless really but it's all you have. The issue is whenever you use concentration barrage, you HAVE to use early warning and hope it flares the right place, essentially making your very average artillery strike cost 160 munitions, 10 inch incendiary on royal engineer regiment costs 140 (and is an awesome call-in) and command vehicles can summon a much better recon ability that basically reveals the entire map for less muni.

Concentration barrage CAN be used to destroy on map artillery, but it nearly always takes 2 uses of it thus costing 200 muni minimum if you don't require recon, otherwise you need to get really lucky with early warning or have a friend with recon. It is however the best way to counter LefH's as Brits imo, it's just nowhere near as good as Major + Time on target as USF or recon and IL2 for soviets. The only other ways I can think of as brits to destroy the gun is commando demo charge or suicide commandos and air supremacy which is reaaaallly expensive.

not really...if i count all the easy destroyed lefhs in some games...i could easy build 4-5 priest or sexton. static arty are so easy to counter..but mobile not...so its not that expansive if you handle it smart

I would argue the opposite, You can build an LefH or ml20, 2 feet from your base and it's range will cover all relevant areas of the map, any AA at all and you won't get recon through to it to arty it out and good luck getting a tank there to kill the crew, let alone destroy the gun. Whereas with the short range of mobile arty and their inherent vulnerability to tanks, you can easily dive or flank them due to the fact they need to be significantly closer to where they fire from. So many times have I just driven straight in with a panzer 4/panther/puma and killed 2-3 sextons/priests and blitzkrieged out before they can respond. Even if you lose the panzer 4 that's a no brainer trade. I can often deal with one or 2 mobile arty myself, I often need a teammate to help me counter an LefH.

^^^ Agree with most of this,the valentine unfortunately you have to be really careful with buffing, especially damage as otherwise you just have a cromwell for t34 price, which people would abuse. That's why you need 8 CP for it so people can't do that. Perhaps just making the MGs really good? The valentine is already pretty useful as it can pop smoke for infantry against MGs without needing a mortar pit (something everyone SHOULD be doing but nobody does) not to mention the radar which is soooooo good. 80 fuel for an AEC knock off with more utility seems fair though.

The OKW flares are only op because of recharge, the cooldown should start at the end of the ability which it doesn't so you can have flares up constantly. IMO if you can't see the giant ball of fire floating above your stuff and don't immediately assume your stuff is under threat, you deserve to get your stuff destroyed. But meh maybe they are op anyway due to no counter play so...

(FYI you don't need anvil for airburst on conc barrage anymore, although anvil is the only useful choice so you should be taking it anyway)

Even replacing arty overwatch with something like counter battery would be okish as that's still quite good and I'd use it more if it didn't involve going advanced emplacements XD they basically do the same job anyway. I'd prefer a useful artillery barrage though. Railway arty from special weps would be a really nice addition.