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Thread: No Point to Schwerer Flak anymore?27 Mar 2018, 21:52 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Mar 2018, 21:31 PMthedarkarmadillo How much pop cap does an emplacment take up? How much does a schwere take up? What units are required to build an emplacment (and how much pop do THEY take up?) And what units are required to set up a schwere (and how much pop do THEY take up?) To boot the bofors has 25 pen (mid) and 30 damage while the schwere has 45 pen (mid) and 40 damage So im not sure where the "my superiour, pop free, self building, included with tech area denial cannon doesnt have all the abilities the 10 pop, binary side tech similar weapon in an enemies roster comes from... If YOU cant defend it you dont deserve to reap the benifits it yields (although even in base you can benifit from the 100% free AA ability) Perhaps try playing againt easy okw bots so you can see how a complete retard builds them and aspire up to that Basically like usf free bar/bar+thompson squad and major (both scaling with veterancy) with nondoc arty, free frp and recon, or brits tier 4 ultra cheap arty, but unlike both it kills your teching when destroyed, the faction having them has zero indirect fire capabilities of any value that isn't locked behind 150 fuel (conviniently forgetting it can't magically become an artillery unlile the "inferior" bofor ?). But hey, you are right, players must be punished for careless play. Any usf officer wiped must lock teching. If you don't want to risk keep your FREE squad at base. And before starting to cry about popcap, let me remind you what a joke usf popcap is In: COH2 Balance
Thread: About Jacksons28 Feb 2018, 16:05 PM I think even rocks know that at Arrancourt allied cas won the battle. Whenever the Luftwaffe had limited air superiority (Market Garden), air support couldn't be avaiable for both sides (early Hurtgen forest, early Ardennes,..) and allies worked without coordinating with air support (Villers-Bocage) Western allies took an hell of a beating. Exactly, all myths of unreliability comes from a report from French forces using barely repaired ausf D Panthers collected in Normandy. There's way more than one source going against it. Taking the operational rate from 1944 to 1945, the Panther operational rate is of 70% (Sherman is 80%) all despite the early 1944 bombing of Panther Nuremberg factory, fuel and spare parts shortages and much more hours of activity on the field as frontline tanks to supplement numerical inferiority. It was actually far more reliable. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: About Jacksons28 Feb 2018, 15:53 PM Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2018, 14:52 PMAvNY I strongly recommend a thorough reading of this article by The Chieftan: https://worldoftanks.com/en/news/chieftain/chieftains-hatch-us-guns-vs-german-armour-part-1/?page=1 There is a LOT there including a lot of testing results of various allied rounds used against various parts of the Panther. The sum of it is that while there wasn't a lot that could penetrate the front of the Panther, there was a whole heck of a lot (down to 37mm APC rounds at 500m and 57mm and 75mm m4s at 1500m) that would penetrate the sides and rear of the Panther. There is also a bunch of discussion about the effects of hardened steel. The Germans made it much harder to penetrate, but spalling was a huge issue. On the other hand the US steel was much softer, making a penetration easier but less lethal. Considering the US was able to replace tanks, but that trained (and particularly trained and experienced) crews are harder to replace this actually works out quite well, as can be seen in the results of the more experienced US m4/75mm crews at Arracourt. As to cost? Pretty much useless information, probably from the parts of both allies and Germans but in particular on the German side. When there is rationing, shortages that have to be resolved with allocations, and slave labor involved, and a complete lack of open exchange rates, it is probably impossible to evaluate the cost of military materiale in Nazi Germany. That affects the US as well, but without as many factors since there was no slave labor and much fewer shortages. No sorry, neither the chieftain nor WOT are reliable sources. If you want to come out with Hunnicutt, Zalonga, Schneider or whatever ok, but the chieftain has said a lot of factually untrue trash (kwk42 75mm having worse penetration than 88 kwk36 is one of the worst). And what you said is nonsense. Cost is cost, it is based on manpower, hours and amount of resources and converted into relative cost. Cost can be converted in any currency. Panthers production was in Nuremberg, so hardly slave labour has something to do. To be fair, almost whole military production has always been located in Germany in ww2, if we exclude wool, basic infantry tools, gas, fuel and uniforms. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: About Jacksons28 Feb 2018, 14:10 PM Wow wow i have seen a lot of myths but this thread lol 1) Sherman wasn't "cheap". It actually costed (basic old hull 75mm gun) slighly more than panzer 4 ausf H, the most expensive panzer 4 with skirts, high velocity gun, improved hull armored, rounded turret skirts. The Easy 8 costed roughly 2k US dollar less than Panther ausf G equivalent from reichmarks. 2) The extra hatch was introduced as stopgap solution for the burning issues. It has never been used in Europe (post Italy where early shermans served of course), but hey, it was there, so ok. It actually took some time before a knocked out tank will catch fire with proper upgrades. 3) The USF doctrine was NOT what held Sherman back. As much flawed as usf tank doctrine looked, it was immidiatly abandoned from Normandy, where Tigers and Panthers gave 75mm Shermans quite a beating. The issued was that the m1 76mm gun implemented in 1944 was way behind the german kwk40 l/48 implemented in 1942. It had roughly same caliber and longer barrel. It was much more restrictive and reduced of a lpt the turret traverse. AND STILL the kwk40 had far higher muzzle velocity. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: MP40 Volks Under-performing20 Feb 2018, 19:09 PM Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2018, 05:55 AMKatitof Against what? While you're on the "don't forget" duty, then don't forget about both axis factions having HMGs with cons are helpless against. Plus, STG volk blobs trade very well with ppsh. .............. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW infantry anti-tank is not sufficient20 Feb 2018, 19:03 PM Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2018, 01:30 AMthedarkarmadillo What generalists are you looking at here? Iirc the only medium with pen that puts mid pen at 120 would be the sherman AP shells (140 close iirc) t34 should has 100 mid (80 at far) and the cromwell should iirc have a profile no better than the old p4 (100/110/120) E8 and t34/85 have better profiles of course but they are doctrinal and much closer in price As for the null deal there on stats, im not sure the chance is negated that low. Perhaps Vipper could confirm/deny but i thought it was a much lower margin (like 4% or lower) to count as negated. Cromwell mid pen has always been 120, sherman has been buffed to 120. 2 out of three generalists have 120 mid pen. Negated or not, it's a laughable excuse. A 5% chance to bounce at long range won't make jp4 better. It's (not specifically you) double standars and hipocrisy at its finest. Multiple times it has been pointed out that "jp4 can pen any medium" and that "allies don't have panthers" while the Comet (which falls into medium category and is nondoctrinal) has 42% chances of bouncing at long range. Going back to the cost point, Comet has also a lot of utility, a turret, good ai performances, an accuracy no brainer upgrade that makes total accuracy better than jp4 vet 0 and 1 and same exact penetration, while having far superior mobility and healtpool, only for 40 more fuel. The issues will always remain: 1) Unless the opponent decide to spam generalist and handheld at lose deflection damage "mid" armor is useless. It won't bounce anything else anyway. 2) As a medium counter is insanely expensive Or 3) As an heavy counter is lackluster in penetration 4) its [insert 80%of okw units here] veterancy has been lazily implemented and reworked. It takes incredibly longer to vet up compared to the counterpart while vet 5 is now vet 3 (*pointing at now useless vet 5 first shot damage bonus, that doesn't actually reduce the number of shots required to kill at all, and more issues). In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW infantry anti-tank is not sufficient20 Feb 2018, 01:30 AM @Firesparks agreed, jp4 being 120 fuel would be perfect. Su 85 should get a complete rebalance IMHO. A 200 damage model that actually push the vehicle into the anti heavy role. Firefly is mostly okeish, if anything i would rather boost its mobility and turret traverse In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW infantry anti-tank is not sufficient20 Feb 2018, 01:21 AM Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2018, 20:18 PMthedarkarmadillo Well, i mean IN the text you quoted i said that the su85 should lose some of its pen and even still, the fact that the pen on the su85 IS currently so high but, even as small as it is, has a chance to bounce the JP means that its armour is pretty impressive (i was under the impression that small chances to pen were null but any chance to bounce was untouched, as small as it is) But, against the far more cancerous soviet TD (that being the su76) the JP armour and range really shines. Able to bounce 1 in 5 shells but also needing 6 pens to be killed vs guaranteed to pen and needing only 3 to kill and su76 And being able to bounce mediums more often than not IS a big deal when we are talking the prices were talking for these units. "even as small as it is, has a chance to bounce the JP means that its armour is pretty impressive (i was under the impression that small chances to pen were null but any chance to bounce was untouched, as small as it is)" Small chances ARE NULL JP4 won't bounce anything from su 85 "And being able to bounce mediums more often than not IS a big deal when we are talking the prices were talking for these units." Generalist mid pen is 120. It means 53% of penetration chances, hardly more often than not. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW infantry anti-tank is not sufficient19 Feb 2018, 17:29 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2018, 16:44 PMthedarkarmadillo To play devils advocate even with the tremendously higher pen on the su85 the JP4 still has a chance to bounce it at max range while the su85 will always be penned by the JP. so i mean there is that... Su85 should have a small pen reduction since it has that big buff with vet, but the JP4 is a good choice being the only non doc axis unit that not only can match the range of allied TDs but also being one of the few units that will deflect shots on occasion. Let's actually check it: Jagdpanzer 4 armor: 230 Su 85 penetration: 220-230-240 It has a 5% of probability to bounce a shot at max range. Even if someone would actually argue it is "a chance to bounce" with a straight face (that would be a showcase of utmost politician skills), IIRC percentages under 9 or 6 % are considered null by the game. The rest is based on the wrong idea that jp4 can actually make use of its armor against anything bigger than a generalist. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: MP40 Volks Under-performing19 Feb 2018, 17:07 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2018, 15:00 PMOutsider_Sidaroth You pay what? 10 more MP and around the same munitions? Many think PPSH Cons are slightly OP, so they might get tonned down in due time, if we ever get another patch Costs slighly more = costs more Much more expensive = wrong In: COH2 Balance