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Why would anyone try to brute force counter much more expensive CQC units with Volks with MP40s? Isn't that a flawed plan to begin with? MP40 Volks can get a lot of work done, as deep flankers, else yeah just stick to the STGs.

"Much more expensive"
You are so biased you don't even know basic core axis units costs (probably because you haven't played axis at all)
Volks mp40 are more expensive than cons ppsh so "Why would anyone try to brute force counter much more expensive CQC units with cons ppsh" ?

No I am not agreeing with that. If you are going to misrepresent my argument completely, and write gibberish every other sentence, I'm not wasting my time. What the heck is "hurr durr"? Grow up

"I think the SU85 is only better against slow heavies. Everything else the Jp4 has an edge at."
"Much worse might be an exaggeration"

Of course you weren't agreeing when you said jp4 has an edge against basically everything but heavies and that jp4 being much better may be an exaggeration

Yeah of course.
Backpedaling against your own previous posts followed by a cheap get away seems the best solution.
Going on would actually mean you have to go through the process of debeating against legit arguments taking the discussion outside the "muh armor and target size advantage" (kinda ironical since you were crying over Vipper focus on TTK and penetration) and bring arguments on your side, and you definetly seem unable to do it (with me or Vipper).

Hell you can't even google basic stuff and start a post without an ad hom.. i was definetly asking too much..

The discussion here is reaching a nonsense level that has never ever been seen...

@Katitof
@SkystheLimit

Stop it, nobody here ever said that jagdpanzer 4 should counter heavy tanks. Their point (true) was that as a mere medium counter, jagdpanzer 4 is extremely overexpensive.

The MINIMAL edge that jagdpanzer 4 has (at cost of lower mobility as well) against medium doesn't justify jagdpanzer costing MORE on top of being far worse against heavies (that's a huge gap in performances unlike su 85 medium countering performances gap).

"NO VACUUM BRO"
Yet you fully agreed to a post saying that su85 "is much worse"...

"Dude but the allied 200+ vehicle armor are doctrinal"
So were heavy TD, but that didn't stop the cut did it ?
But like i said, nobody here is asking for jp4 to counter is 2..but 135 fuel is way too much for a medium counter.
And that highlight another issue, panther being trash and not an heavy/medium/anything counter.

Regarding OP point, let me point out the irony here.
Okw was supposed to use shrecks to complement raketen and now is the only faction lacking viable handheld at.
I find amusing how everybody gets triggered as f..k when hearing about 2 shreck sturm.
It's not like panzergrens are the exact same thing and usf has recently got 6 men panzershreck airborne squads in 2 doctrines (that are cheaper to reinforce).

Also the models randomly stop shooting and becomes fluctuating puppets with opened arms.

It's the art of fixing what ain't broke while leaving broken stuff broken.

But hey thanks for the "new infantry combat experience" dbp team lul.

I suggest you stop cherrypicking stats to fit your argument. Same scatter yes, shorter range and smaller kill radius. But you left that out of course...

Oh the irony here..
Cherrypicking is pretty much what you are doing as well.
What about we change riflemen into a 4 men bolt action rifle squad to begin with ? Then we change 222 with aaht and give halftrack the ability ti nondoc place the best at mine in game ?
Usf mortar is meant to smoke and disloge enemy from buildings, job that it does with no issues.