Profile of jagd wölfe

It's a neat idea that's come up before but I don't think it's likely at this point.

There's probably much less work to do with this than to create doctrines or even just rework some.

But i see what you mean

I like this idea, for the Obersoldaten at least. While they are potent infantry they've always had the problem of arriving too late, giving them a significant veterancy disadvantage. This solution is easier than shuffling units around tier structures. I'm not so sure about the Jagdpanzer since it would become so cheap it would deny all Allied early armor. I'd put that one into the sidetech as well.

If jagdpanzer would be too powerful then it should be NERFED and placed still 60 fuel before.
Okw doesn't need an high tier tank destroyer other than Panther, but a stopgap at like stug.

Okw units has a number of squads they can field and each and EVERY one of them is a threat, not just volks. Getting any one of them even close to an enemy mortar is enough to force it off. Hell, even a kuble dive put enough threat to make it move.

And gosh darn those squirrelly allied players...using cover... You know what cover does right? Ontop of the obvious defensive bonuses (and small offensive bonises for brits) it also makes them static. You know what units LOOOOVE static troops? Indirect fire, things like mortars....and the leig. Its not a 120mm, but it will contribute. And seeing as you listed the allied units as having upgrades i can assume your volks have STGs? And maybe the munitions for a cover denying lava nade? No?

And i dont have my playercard cause i dont care about it. Generally players who request them know they are wrong and are looking for a reason to simply disqualify other players opinions (kinda like you are trying to do) instead of the merits of their words and i wont be a part of that. Were here for discussion, all of us and a players ability to micro doesnt take away from their knowledge of the game, nor DOES thier ability to micro or even affinity to RNG provide them a trump card when they clearly dont understand tactics or the tools of the game.

I know what i know and admit when im wrong or dont know something and im sure their are players who will attest to that. My condecention comes from knowing what im talking about to a player who is seemingly pretending they do and discounting tactical options and using that as a reasoning for balance changes. Now back to the discussion

Nobody said the 240mp mortar is relegated to just smoke, but it has the option for it and good players will apply that to neutralize an enemy advantage or press their own. Is the LEIG underperforming? A bit. It has been most of its life (save for the dark days of auto fire supression...) Could it use a small buff? Probably. Make a thread about that. However its ability to smoke and punish units in cover remains and needs to be accounted for.

Ill admit i have no clue what you mean with your last blurb, if you sre calling me an allied snowflake you are sorely mistaken, i have an affinity to EFA, but generally prefer the ost (more diverse and engaging commander options) not that it matters

Generally speaking people who refuse to put playercards are compstompers, left the game ages ago (aka katitof) or never played the "OP X faction" (kinda like you).
When you go out for ultra provocatory/sarcastic borderline offensive and comdescending AS FUC toxic post you are asking for it, it has nothing to do with arguments.
Put your playercard in.

Speaking of arguments, you have none.
The only unit to be remotely a threat for med hq strats are sturm, volks and flak ht. Isg inability to succesfully outgun any kind of indirect fire even if less expensive makes already bad per se okw support weapons ultrahorribad.

Volks are coverfighter that are at any stage undergunned. They can hardly keep a midgame offensive. By the time rifle get bar sturm are the facto too squishy to be a threat, this is why noone is actually building sturm squad other than early one even post patch.

Now if at level 2 4vs4/3vs3 or whatever your opponents lets you get away by yolo moving bolt action infantry and pushing with flak ht, that's another issue.

"about to a player who is seemingly pretending they do and discounting tactical options"

There's no TACTICAL option you are talking about, you are just BABBLING and theorycrafting about a mass assault okw players should pull at the expenses of the enemy with unfit and inferior infantry while having access tp the worst of the worst indirect fire and support weapons, while the only working tool is stationary fire only 55 fuel vehicle.
They should use cover as smoke, except that volks are always better at long range and a long range unit to begin with, so you hardly even want to close in against allied infantry, and OFC this is a basic concept.
And kubel... Nobody is building it, not a single time in KotH post patch.
Please let me see your ACTUAL OKW experience. Nothing of what you said makes sense, and i wouldn't be surprised if you didn't even compstomp succesfully with the faction.

You also could have say like Ostheer free LMG/Nade upgrades.

Nobody is complaining about the Schwerer existence but someone is thinking its useless because it has counters... and people know to use them.

Now as for USF, a good revamp with removing free-but-not-so-free officers and adding more flexibility would be greatfull.

The old propaganda of ostheer free stuff is just stupid.

Ostheer tech costs aren't any lower than general faction tech costs, but we can split tier 3 costs into 2 side tech and tier 3 anytime you want if you don't mind the huge tier 3 rush buff

But by all means have usf teching close out tech when wiped, but they too must cost no population. Ill see you after that change on your thread bitching that the OP usf are causing bleed with 0 pop bonuses that came with nothing more than teching up.


If you feel you are incapable of countering a single mortar with your own options address that problem

Agreed, but when usf loses free vehicle crew repair that bring popcap hack.

To be fair, since the usf vehicles have been buffed to the freaking sky, there's no reason they still hold vehicle crews and 0.75 moving accuracy....That ultra snowflake status that is making them wipe the floor with anything in koth.

Please, enlighten me on those "options".
Meme support gun ?
It's a given fact that okw indirect is the weakest of all factions