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Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Ostheer Feedback5 Apr 2021, 00:57 AM Jump back to quoted post4 Apr 2021, 18:22 PMPip Well, the M42 IS just a soviet copy of the Pak-36, so that's probably doable. The recoil mechanism looks a little different between the two guns, but I don't think it's anything noticeable. Retexture the thing and you likely couldn't tell it wasn't a Pak-36. Given that the CoH2 250 model is almost exactly the same as the CoH1 version (Except for a couple of pieces of stowage, and a couple of vision slits... and the Textures, obviously) this is also likely doable without looking even slightly out of place. Again, the only impediment being Relic preventing such asset importation. No, M42 is not a copy of the 37mm Pak. M1932 19-k is. I do think you can retexture the skin of the arties. I have seen (years ago) camouflaged zis-3 using special skin. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: 10,5 cm leFH 18 and 152mm ML-2015 Mar 2021, 04:23 AM Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2021, 01:55 AMStug life 1 both unit cost fuel and mp 2 1 shoot can already decrew it 3 i know how CB works if u read what i said, it used to deter fire and forget for mobile howy, CB basically makes a full barrage risky so they get 1 shoot in and have to move 1. Read my post. "And that is why they cost more fuel and MP to build one." 2. Read my post. "Also, NO ONE can destroy a full health battery with only one shot and can hardly do so with one barrage." Decrew an arty is meanless since it only cost a few dozens MP to crew it back. 3. Also, read my post. "It is good and somewhat OP because it fires with more damage per shot(200 instead of 180 or 160, I can't remember), less overall scatter multiplier, and even ignoring FoW debuff(that I not sure if there was)." AND, "I personally do not care if it was a one-click-and-done ability." which means I agree it should be able to deter the firing arties, but not with extra DPS. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: 10,5 cm leFH 18 and 152mm ML-2015 Mar 2021, 00:09 AM Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2021, 13:39 PMStug life It makes no sense as u already know where it is and u can just manually barrage it, and the longer u stay the better it is works for ALL arty not just CB, that's why i said sexton and priest which both can easily destroy a lefh with 1 barrage unlike missile arty which will decrew it but require more pounding to destroy it generally honestly speaking i would not mind if it only targeted those units with CB Okay, let me try to explain these a bit deeper. NO ONE would know where the arties are regardless of their mobility unless they themselves got a hit. Yes, the mobile arties can relocate themselves but not when they are barraging. And that is why they cost more fuel and MP to build one. Their number of shots fired, and max fire distance has already decreased to compensate for their mobility advantage. Also, NO ONE can destroy a full health battery with only one shot and can hardly do so with one barrage. The Priest will need two DIRECT hits and probably three for the Sexton. Good luck achieving those goals when firing at max range with FoW. CB will only target where the arties do their barrage. If a mobile arty opened fire at location A but retreated to location B, CB will still fire at location A. Again, CB is good not because it can counter mobile arties. It is good and somewhat OP because it fires with more damage per shot(200 instead of 180 or 160, I can't remember), less overall scatter multiplier, and even ignoring FoW debuff(that I not sure if there was). I personally do not care if it was a one-click-and-done ability. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: 10,5 cm leFH 18 and 152mm ML-2014 Mar 2021, 01:46 AM Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2021, 22:32 PMStug life CB only exist for 1 reason, mobile howys, if priest and sexton did not exist CD would not exist I don't know why people are still getting this wrong, but I'll try to explain this again. Mobile arties will ALWAYS, or at least in a much better chance, lose to stationary arties in a direct arty vs. arty contest(presuming FoW is on). And here is why: 1. Mobile arties fire fewer shots. In a contest where only RNG matters, fire more shots always mean a better chance to hit. 2. Mobile arties have bigger sizes, thus make it easier to get hit. Stationary arties are for sure very easy to get decrewed. But destroying the battery itself is really hard and mostly requires direct shots. 3. Mobile arties have a shorter range. This means using mobile arties to counter stationary arties is quite hard on big maps and makes mobile arties usually fire at max range, leading to even bigger scatter. CB is there to counter all arties that are staying stationary. The longer the arties stay at the firing zone, the better the CB will perform. Since most of the Mobile arties fire fewer shots which leads to a shorter barrage window, CB does not benefit from it. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: IL-2 Bombing replaced by ADVANCED WARFARE STRAFE?27 Feb 2021, 15:00 PM Ahhhh..... I thought for a long time that Advanced Warfare's IL-2 Sturmovik Attack Strafe is just a meme. But seriously, though, the likelihood for me to use this ability is close to zero. I'd rather spend the 90 munitions on 3 mines or 2 Katy's Creeping Barrage. How do you guys think about this change? I know a nerf is needed but wasting a slot on a meme ability is a bit too much imo. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Zis-3 as an AT gun5 Feb 2021, 04:41 AM Jump back to quoted post5 Feb 2021, 00:16 AMelchino7 I gave you the information that is relevant for AT guns. AoE Pen is mostly irrelevant and the difference is 5. You NEVER take in isolation RELOAD values, because it's only 1 component of the shooting cycle. IIRC it should be Ready aim + Fire aim + Wind up >> Shoot >> Wind down + Cooldown + Reload Which is why i listed ROF and TTS. Vertical rotation is also irrelevant. The differences are minimal. The fact that the Zis have access to vet 0 barrage and +2 crew offsets the 1s difference in Rof, the 2 rotation speed difference (which was added to help the faction against light vehicles) and the 10 difference in penetration. To make it complete, vet wise: https://www.coh2.org/guides/29892/the-company-of-heroes-2-veterancy-guide#1220 Zis: Unlocks the "Tracking" ability. +30% rotation speed. +30% reload speed. +20% reload speed. +30% penetration. +6.25% range of the "Light Artillery Barrage" ability. Pak40: Unlocks the "Target Weak Point" ability. +30% rotation speed. +30% reload speed. +10% reload speed. +30% penetration. Pounder: Unlocks the "Rapid Maneuvers" ability. +100% rotation speed. +30% reload speed. +30% accuracy. +30% penetration. Yes, I totally get your point. But these seemingly irrelevant drawbacks are usually game-changing. I have been testing out for dozens of games(4v4 rank around 70) by asking my friends to para dropping me 6 pdrs, and Zis usually ditch out half the damage despite being presenting twice longer the time. Just taking the last game I just played, for example, the single pak 40 I captured for only 10 mins, have dealt the same damage as the Zis, which have been on the field for nearly 40 mins. Here is my point, yes, some people do purposely build Zis for its utility. But, these utilities will phase off dramatically as the game proceeds and usually do not affect whatsoever in the late game. I don't expect zis to be as good as pak or 6 pdr, which it shouldn't. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Zis-3 as an AT gun4 Feb 2021, 22:05 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2021, 20:29 PMelchino7 For quick reference: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H5z6szCfhmAAnDprmgwLzc-viZg4HPhKZshNLErvnck/edit#gid=1638665511 https://i.serealia.ca/files/coh2dps.html#76 Pen Pak40: 210/200/190 Zis: 200/190/180 57mm: 150/140/130 57mm HVAP: 225/210195 Rak: 200/190/180 Pounder: 210/200/190 RoF = Reload + Wind up + Wind down + Ready aim + Fire aim Winds are delays that are generally tied to animation sequences. If i get it right, wind up plus aim times are required before firing while wind down is performed after shooting. So, let's say time to shoot. TTS Pak40: 0.57 Zis: 0.445 57mm: 0.56 Rak: 0.445 Pound: 0.57 ROF: Pak40: 4.87 Zis: 5.875 57mm: 4.31 Rak: 4.995 Pound: 4.87 Tracking Rotation speed/Arc Pak: 14/30° Zis: 12/30 57mm: 18/40 Rak: 12/35 Pound: 12/30 Again, I am only comparing the 320 mp ATs. You may include the others, but I personally do not prefer to do so since I don't think they are fair comparisons. According to the modding tool: Pen(the higher, the better): Pak40: 210/200/190 Zis: 200/190/180 Pounder: 210/200/190 AOE pen(the higher, the better): Pak40: 105/100/95 Zis: 100/95/90 Pounder: 105/100/95 Reload(the higher, the worse): Pak40: 3.5~4.1 Zis: 4.425~4.425 Pounder: 3.5~4.1 horizontal and vertical tracing speed (the higher, the better): Pak40: 14(horizontal);25(vertical ) Zis: 12(horizontal);12(vertical ) Pounder: 12(horizontal);25(vertical ) Wind up and down(If I got what you said, then the higher, the worse?) Pak40: 0.5(down);0.25(up) Zis: 1(down);0.125(up) Pounder: 0.5(down);0.25(up) Here are couple more differences, but I have no idea how they work: Behavior -- reaction radius: Pak40: 0.4 Zis: 0.5 Pounder: 0.4 Flinch radius: Pak40: 0.5 Zis: 0 Pounder: 0.5 Moving end/move start time(I assume the higher, the worse): Pak40: 0.75(end);0.6(start) Zis: 1(end);1(start) Pounder: 0.75(end);0.6(start) Accuracy, Fire aim, and ready aim are the same for all of them. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Zis-3 as an AT gun4 Feb 2021, 15:35 PM Don't give me wrong; I do know that Zis-3 is a good towed gun in the game. But its AT performance is quite shabby. Compare to the other 320 MP counterparts, according to data from the modding tool, it has the lowest reload rate, lowest pen, lowest horizontal and vertical tracing speed (also highest wind-up and down, but I don't quite understand how it works. ) It does have six members crew, but it has to compensate with the fact that the soviet do not have any non- doc forward healing(not reinforce) option. So, since Zis barrage is receiving a nerf next patch. It would be nice to see some alters to its AT performance. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Remove counter-barrage.12 Jan 2021, 09:08 AM I think most people have a huge misunderstanding here. Mobile arties like Sexton and Priest are actually at a disadvantage in an arty vs. arty situation. They have a bigger size, shorter range, and also fire fewer shots. Feel free to give them a test, unless hitting direct shot onto the crews and disarm the gun; Sexton and Priest will always be likely to lose, and even more so vs. counter barrage since this ability makes barrage more accurate in terms of destroying the whole thing. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback27 Nov 2020, 02:20 AM Most of the changes are very solid except for a few that I think are quite controversial. 1. Penal changes are irrelevant; with the maximum buff, I will suspect to see them disappear in even more matches. 2. T-34 ram is over nerfed. No one would go for t4 just for an oversize t70. Its AT ability is completely rely on the RAM. 3. T70 nerf is needed, but I worry about soviet mid-game AI performance. 4. Katy needs some changes to improve its team game performance. It is the worst compared to its counterparts in bigger game mode, even though it performs really well in 1v1. 5. Please stop ignoring ml20. The only good thing it has compare to lefh is its direct hit damage. In: COH2 Balance