Nothing to do with lazyness, just me trying to get rid your THE worst habit, comparing apples to oranges to prove your artificial truths when you're wrong.
And thank you for doing so.
You wouldn't compare T-70 to P4 and try to justify T-70 being too weak in AT against mediums and its equally pointless to do that level of comparison with TDs, comparing SU-86/jackson/FF to anything below panther.
Yes you are being lazy and rude. And try to get you fact straight. I did not compare anything and I drew no conclusion, I simply provide raw stats that where requested and I explained how armor works.
You can chose what you like to compare and you draw you own conclusion but the fact remains that vet 2 armor bonus Brumbar gets, means nothing vs a SU-85 vet 2. Actually it there little difference if it Brumbar vet 0 or vet3. It will be hit and penetrate with 100% chance even at range 60 by a vet 2 Su-85. Some goes for the Panther. At this point the armor value of T4 tanks has been lowered so mush and penetration values of these TD has been increases so much that armor offer no protection , neither does their target size.
On the other hand the HP Dozer, KV-2 and KV-8 get as veterancy bonus actually does matter vs the Panther that needs an extra shot to kill them.
Feel free to use you own stat, to do you own analysis and come up with own conclusions but pls spear the personal comments.