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Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - General Feedback1 May 2021, 07:18 AM Jump back to quoted post1 May 2021, 07:12 AMSander93 Advanced Warfare might get the loiter instead of the strafe, seeing how the strafe got moved to 3 other commanders. Move it partisans. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Petition to Nerf/Remove Soviet Mortar Flare1 May 2021, 07:17 AM Jump back to quoted post1 May 2021, 07:11 AMKamzil118 .... Mind you, we're talking about a mediocre mortar team whose extra infantry models are dead weight to the population and are relied upon for their utility rather than the killing performance that the Ostheer mortar is capable of. If it actually kills anything then it is a plus. That is simply false: Both mortars have a pop of 6 In addition it is already established that MP-41 is not that much worse than GrW 34, a bit worse auto attack a bit better barrage. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - General Feedback30 Apr 2021, 21:17 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Apr 2021, 19:19 PMpvtgooner Centaur is not "much tougher" than an ostwind. I think both vehicles are perfect from a health/armor standpoint right now. There were times were the ostwind was made of glass, we dont live in that timeframe anymore. You are simply wrong. Ostwind's armor/health has not changed in years and even when they where changed the differences where minor. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - General Feedback30 Apr 2021, 21:12 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Apr 2021, 20:33 PMgeneral_gawain ... vs Centaur: Puma between 100%pen (close) and 50% (far) at 50 range / 120dmg vs Ostwind: AEC between 100%pen (close) and 73%(far) at 40 range / 120dmg (Luch vs Centaur: Luch 12.5% 12.5%) vs Ostwind: Stuart between 68%pen (close) and 50% (far) at 40 range / 80dmg T-70 between 45% (close) and 36% (far) at 40 range / 40dmg In sort Centaur is 23% probable to be penetrate by recon AT and Around x1/2-x1/3 less chance to be penetrate by light Tank. It will also be penetrate easier by medium tanks In other words, the armor advantage Centaur has, does matter for a variety of weapons. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Change rush-walking stuka timing for 3v3/4v430 Apr 2021, 17:18 PM I would rather have Stuka become cheaper and start with toned down version of incendiary barrage that forces support weapon to move and have the HE barrage locked behind a second truck. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - General Feedback30 Apr 2021, 16:06 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Apr 2021, 15:36 PMgeneral_gawain Yes, that are light tanks for 70 fuel, that is a lot for a light tank. Take Puma for example, costs 70 fuel can damage a Centaur too. On the other side Ostwind can damage Stuart / T-70 pretty well by itself since it has a lot more penetration than Centaur. I don't mind that light tanks for 70 fuel have a chance to damage Ostwind/Centaur for 100 fuel. Only there a major difference T-70/Stuart are light tanks Puma/AEC are recon/AT vehicles. (Want to check how Luch does vs centaur?) Calculate the change of the Puma hitting and penetrating a Centaur and do the same for AEC (or even T-70/Stuart) vs Ostwind. No matter how you want to look at it Centaur is much tougher than Ostwind. Jump back to quoted post30 Apr 2021, 15:36 PMgeneral_gawain The target size is the real deal and I never questioned that. I said that the higher armor has little effect since there is only one typical matchup were it helps at all. It is the matchup PZIV shooting at a Centaur. All AT weaponary I talked about penetrates Centaur to 100% at long ranges. So the armor is worth nothing here. Overall the armor adds little survivability, more speed would be better. But of course the target size helps in any combat situation. Armor does help Centaur it that simple vs a number of weapons. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - General Feedback30 Apr 2021, 14:19 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Apr 2021, 13:37 PMgeneral_gawain In the game the armor isn't that much o a difference as some may think. Bazooka/PIAT penetrates Ostwind at all ranges, Shrek penetrates Centaur at all ranges. All nondoc ATGs penetrate both tanks at all ranges. All T3+T4 TDs penetrate both at all ranges. The difference gets visible in the matchup PZIV vs Centaur or T34/M4A3/Cromwell vs Ostwind. While T34 vs Ostwind bounces around 1/3 of its shots at long range and PZIV bounces pretty much the same vs Centaur, Cromwell and M4A3 penetrate Ostwind with a higher chance. Thats the real visible difference in the game. On the other side Centaur is more likely to attract a further shot from an ATG or a pursuing tank than Ostwind. Since the speed is 5.6 and 1.8 accleration (Centaur) vs 6.3 and 2.1 accleration (Ostwind). So armor is only relevant in this one ingame situation. If PZIV would penetrate Centaur at all ranges it would only be relevant vs light tanks at all. Not really. Ostwind take damage even from light vehicles like T-70/Stuart. Centaur is actually harder to hit than Cromwell while having the same armor and Owstind is easier to hit than PzIV while having much less armor. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - General Feedback30 Apr 2021, 13:05 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Apr 2021, 13:03 PMHannibal Alright thanks for clearing that up! Was there a reason behind that? Mediums got buffed to increase the survivability. The Ostwind though also needs to be on the front line, it is too expensive to keep for AA only purposes. It does not dive usually, but still. Especially since the related Centaur has only 18 target size and fulfills the same role. Centaur has both superior target size 18 vs 22 but also superior armor 160/80 vs 110/55 In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Should Osttruppen really be buffed? 29 Apr 2021, 21:27 PM Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2021, 21:23 PMmiragefla Well, there's not many other combat ranges I think they could have. Unless you want to rework their cover bonuses. Early game they do beat all other troops at the mid-long range in cover wars just because of their incredibly high raw accuracy and their squad size. They do lose when out of cover for obvious reasons, but I am just noting their only weak combat range during cover wars is short-range and only vs particular troops. Simply remove LMG upgrade and change to target size upgrade. The unit is currently bad at recrewing support weapons and that is something ostheer need. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - OKW Feedback29 Apr 2021, 14:00 PM Let try to see they correct stat for the whole month where OKW have 55.3% and not 71% In: COH2 Balance