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Thread: HMG-34 in DPP 9 Nov 2017, 15:27 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2017, 15:14 PMA table ... Does it need nerfs? No. .. If it does not need a nerf the DPS of the squad should remain the same and the guns DPS should go up. In: Lobby
Thread: December Balance Preview9 Nov 2017, 15:25 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2017, 13:38 PMNubb3r ... I'm not trying to defend the change or attitutude behind the patch notes, but every time I buy a Panther instead of something else I think about high armor, long range, low vulnerability to indirect fire, a turret, heavy crush anti tank option. The heavy crush is seriously undervalued, but when you have a few spare moments of low action, you can level the hedges on maps like angoville, langreskaya, or crossroads to favor your playstyle with lots of open fields. ... So the Panther can do what UKF engineer can do from vet 0 for free. Sure if I need a tractor I will get a panther. In: Lobby
Thread: December Balance Preview8 Nov 2017, 21:13 PM Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2017, 20:26 PMMarkedRaptor The idea seems to be that instead of going riflemen focused, you'd get a bunch of rear echelons and hold out until you can get rangers or paratroopers correct?... Why use only RE or only riflemen and not mix? In: Lobby
Thread: HMG-34 in DPP 8 Nov 2017, 18:54 PM Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2017, 18:33 PMA table What the hell do you MG34 lovers even want? An MG42 copy- pasta? An incredibly powerfull suppression tool, or an amazing damage- dealer from afar? Does it even need to come earlier, considering OKW already has a powerfull early- game? I not a HMG34 "lover" but what I would like is that HMG-34 squad would not lose any of its DPS. Having another units in the game not worth building does not help the game. In: Lobby
Thread: December Balance Preview8 Nov 2017, 18:51 PM Jump back to quoted post31 Oct 2017, 10:08 AMMr.Smith The Panther has much better AT than the forementioned units, but worse AI. Panther MGs are no joke and can cause a lot of bleed. Depending on the terrain, and also given that Panther AI doesn't care about elevation, Panther can deal more AI output than the Comet. That's also taking into account that the Panther can offer engage units that don't have AT capabilities (e.g., Penals, Tommies and doctrinal USF infantry). The theory that the Panther can deal more AI output than the Comet is stretched to the limit. Panther AI come mostly from the 3 mg it has and 2 of them have range 35. Comet AI come from the main gun the 2 mg, the grenades, the WP. Elevation or no elevation Comet can put so much more damage output on soft targets than the Panther and at longer ranges, that it can counter even ATG while the Panther does not engage them. The vehicles are not even in the same category Comet is a main battle Tank. Panther is TD with mgs. In: Lobby
Thread: HMG-34 in DPP 8 Nov 2017, 17:18 PM Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2017, 16:56 PMEtherealDragon IDK, maybe because it's a different faction and different HMG with a different role to play within that faction? Or because those nerfs would directly affect those factions negatively and balance overall whereas MG34 crew DPS never played a major role for OKW at all? Or the fact that the DPS of the MG34 itself is untouched but you're obsessing over 3 Crew models taking pot-shots at suppressed models at far range and think that miscellaneous DPS somehow matters enough to be funneled into MG34 itself, whichs affects more then the crew members themselves? DPS matters but not crew member DPS when it comes to the MG34 doing its job. You can't argue that Crew members getting their DPS cut by 30% (or whatever) should equate to the MG34 getting a 30% DPS buff because it's apples and oranges. Last time I checked squads being fire upon from a sqaud HMG did not stop ask am I being shot from gun or from the crew... You have come up with a rule that simply does not make sense: "This change doesn't affect the way the MG34 works as a HMG - it's suppression, etc. is completely unchanged from live game." If it applies it apply to all HMG and you should have no problem halving the DPS of ALL HMG. The current change reduces the DPS of unit than nobody complained it had to much DPS, it is described as a bug fix and not balance fix. On the other hand the reduction of DPS of Dshk IS described as balance fix because it was doing too much AND caused a balance issue. The DPS of HMG DOES affect balance. Do you believe that hmg Squad has too much DPS in live? Again if it is opinion that DPS does not matter what are actually arguing here? In: Lobby
Thread: HMG-34 in DPP 8 Nov 2017, 15:50 PM Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2017, 15:38 PMEtherealDragon Not a big one, how important is far DPS to a HMG? They suppress and halt advance to force retreats - not provide long-range damage. They also aren't setting the crew DPS to 0 either - so it's not like it's completely vanishing and MG-34 is losing half it's DPS. Besides, no amount of crew DPS ever will (or should) stop unscreened support weapons from getting killed that's just poor play and should be punished accordingly. OK lets fix all HMG like DSHK and cut their DPS to half. Or in the end of they if in your opinion the DPS for HMG does not matter why are making a fuss about it? In: Lobby
Thread: HMG-34 in DPP 8 Nov 2017, 15:49 PM Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2017, 14:39 PMEtherealDragon .... 4.) The balance implications of buffing the MG-34 itself has much more of an impact than nerfing the crew (which again, I'd argue is both neglible in regards to MG-34 performance and unneeded as a special bonus) 5) I agree that MG-34 is far from perfect or ideal as a HMG but buffing it directly as compensation for a nerf that isn't a huge nerf to it's current performance is pretty reckless given the infrequency of patches. Something a little more tame like reducing Veterancy requirements is the answer so that it can more quickly function better at higher Vet levels. Either the HMG34 squad DPS towards it's facing is high and need to nerf or not and should remain the same. In: Lobby
Thread: P-47 Rocket Strike vs Stuka Close Air Support [VIDEO Proof]8 Nov 2017, 14:18 PM Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2017, 14:16 PMBizrock Thank you, this match shows how stupid stronger is Stuka compared with p47. The ability to stun and crit engine changes everything. 28:53 First Stuka. 36:42 you can see how the ability ends and still almost kill a t34 with a strafe while T-34 was moving 38:50 Third Stuka You are aware of the changes in DBP right? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Firefly8 Nov 2017, 12:56 PM Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2017, 12:11 PMferwiner ... Still, I don't think it is as good as you make it to be. Tulips usually hit only with one rocket as they often miss or get dodged. And main gun reload time makes ineffective against mediums in general. Against a p4 you are better off with just AT gun or two than a firefly... Think you underestimate the effect of Tulips vs PzIV, if 2 tulips hit the PzIV dies in 2 shots around 8 secs one of the fastest kill vs mediums. If one 1 of the hits the PzIV dies in 3 shots in around 16 secs which still very fast. That is actually faster than a JT or Elephant will kill a medium in range 60 in DBP and those units can actually miss. In: COH2 Balance