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I'm fairly sure only Support Paratroopers can get Pimped Bazookas, grabbing one from the Racks is still the old 80 dmg bouncy but fast reload stove pipe of forever.

Both version paras can arm themselves with a super bazooka and lmg.

Yes, I am seriously going to compare their AI performance, on the basis that at conscripts have 0 AI. Thr upgrade even makes them lose access to the molotov upgrade. Just send any vet0 squad against them and sweep them off the field.
I am pretty sure that even the sniper can beat them in a a melee fight.

So according to that reasoning AT support paratroopers are Broken (the ability is actually OP) (or even AT Penals since they retain 66%). A 6 man squad that gets mines to snare, cloak/first strike bonus, great AT while remaining one of the strongest AI infantry (compared to other AT infantry).

Not to mention that paratroopers can pick a super-bazooka and still upgrade with an LMG making the best AI/AT infantry.

If the AI of an AT squad really mattered storm-troopers would be great, but as you pointed out, none uses them.


Conscripts can be spammed and flank hmg and on top of that can be upgraded to Tank hunter only in late game where they can excel at taking out any axis Heavy tank either buy chasing down or by ambushing it.

All that while being cheaper and having lower POP cost.

The effectiveness can be seen here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsRAYkVaA_Q&feature=youtu.be

From a design point of view Axis used to have better AT infantry while having worse AI in their tanks. Now they no longer have better AT infantry while their tanks still have worse AI.


Once more, any criticism originating from me, aim solemnly to Relic and Relic alone, which seem to be more interested in sifting the meta (commanders) than actually balancing the game.

Nobody builds stormtroopers.

You prefer to compare them with the 4 man 340/140 camo PGs? you would still find them OP.

this 1 suggestion coming from another similar thread:
This another approach to OKW aiming at retaining to original design of aggressive truck use that has been lost its strength with the change to FRP.

Changes to trucks:
No limit to number of truck
Buy Cost 100/10
Set UP cost 50/5

They set up faster and are less vulnerable during set up. Once set up the about a bit tougher then Ostheer command bunkers.

Once set up the act as reinforcement point and can built the following units:
1 truck set up access to Leig
2 truck set up access to Obers
3 truck set up access to Puma

Aim of changes:
to make aggressive placing of truck a viable option of player while still allowing him easy access to basic tools if he loses 1 truck.

Leig provide indirect fire support, Obers elite infantry, Puma supports the RW.

Trucks can then upgrade:
1) to medic for 50/35 that gives access to 251 variants (AA fuel cost lowered to 40). Once medic truck is unlocked truck HP/armor to 75% of current levels.

Medic truck can be further upgraded with FRP (100/10) increasing HP/armor to 125% of current. Has aura decreasing reinforcement time by 25% does not heal.

Aim of changes:
Make FRP viable but one has to rely on med box for heal. Upgrade add the bonus of a tougher truck.

2)Mechanized 100/55 gives access to Luch and JP.
Mechanized truck can be further upgraded (50/10) with engineers increasing HP/armor to 125% of current.

Aim of changes:
Gives OKW access to 60 range AT weapon that is affordable and mid game specialized solutions.

3) Shwerer truck requiring at least 1 truck upgraded (100/75) giving access to Stuka and PZIV 4. Shwerer truck has no gun.
Shwerer truck can be further upgraded (100/60) that unlocks the Panther and gives the truck the gun. (Gun can use be aimed and has to use a 30 munition ability to engage aircraft).

Aim of changes:
Early access to medium and support vehicles. More tools to better time Panthers.

Once any truck is upgrade medic spawn in base truck.
Aim of changes:
OKW have access to heal while medic boxs remain an option for FRP.

Building a truck unlock Faust and grenades for SP.
Setting up a truck unlock the rest of grenades.
Upgrading all 3 truck gives access to ST44.

KT requires all tech unlock and is limited to 1 per Shwerer truck.

Other option for truck:
Truck in sector can be upgraded to gives access to a timed that increases (or decrease if enemy capture it) sector income at the cost of manpower.


Changes to units:
1)Now starting unit. VG flame-grenade replaced with a sort range explosive grenade. The grenade is a primary defensive weapon with 60 damage that adds suppression (close to 60% of suppress threshold) to target hits. Primary role to stop direct assault from enemy infantries.

Vet 1 ability "aim fire" cost 10 mu increases accuracy (10%) when stationary.

ST44 upgrade locked behind 3 truck, gives access to 5 ST44 on semi auto mod decreasing long range DPS but increasing mid to close DPS.(to M1 levels?)

2) SP 5 men squad armed with MP40. Cost 280 reduced repair speed. Access to flame grenade (pop down to 6-7). Can upgrade with wire Cutters increasing repair speed losing 1 weapon.
Get the ST44 upgrade with 5 ST44 full auto weapon with squad DPS about the current level.(bit lower close?)

3) Obers can now upgrade 1+1 shreck, lmg34. The lmg34 get the suppress ability from vet 0 but does all squad suffers accuracy penalties. (suppression increases with veterancy) (HMG34 becomes doctrinal?)

Ober can upgrade with 4 infrared ST44 about the DPS a SP but get a timed ability that bypass some cover bonuses.

4)JP redesign as 60 range Stug with a cost around 300/100 and cloaked being replaced by TWP. (cloak can actually be moved to stug). Armored is lowered target size becomes even smaller.

5)Stukas fires a single incendiary rocket at time.

Suggested changes are more a direction and numbers might be off.

The direction aim it one where OKW truck become a important part of the faction. In the same time losing trucks become less punishing since the player still has access to basic tools.

from the experience of the game on open maps, this mine shows itself the worst: stunning quickly, the damage is small, the tank is coming down. this mine is no more than a flash warning that on the flank someone that is

According to patch notes:
PMD-6M Mines
* Cost from 8 to 10
* No longer stuns vehicles; instead, slows vehicle movement and rotation by 50% for 8 seconds
* Can now be built by Penals and Conscripts

The Combo mine + ourah/AT grenade assault (ambush camo/first strike) or AT satchel is actually OP.