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Thread: Cruzz's The More You Know7 Jan 2018, 10:49 AM Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2018, 09:50 AMLiberalPerturabo Hello again. I'm having a bit of trouble with the vehicle crit system in this game. I know that AT nades and fausts will always damage engine after a certain damage threshold (?) + specific abilities will score their own specific crits. But there are things like main gun destroyed and abandoned vehicle which I can't figure out. Are those absolutely random and can be caused by anything, or is there more to them? Snare will cause engine damage if the vehicle is below 75% HP. Shots can cause "main gun disable" bellow 25% HP. Certain weapons and abilities can cause a number criticals effects. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: 2v2 gameplay post patch7 Jan 2018, 08:53 AM Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2018, 04:38 AMOutsider_Sidaroth Infantry definitively seems to be the way to go for USF in 2vs2, thought you could argue Mechanized it's an option for it too, I would say nothing beats Field Defenses, ToT to kill Howitzer/Pak43 or OKW Trucks and the Priest that got buffed last patch. I been playing with para commanders and they they have become very strong. If my ally can provide artillery I tend to use them, super bazookas and cheap access to recon troops with scoped weapons. For Soviets Guards (up to 42,5 range weapons), 120 mm mortar and Sturmovic seem also very strong. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Cruzz's The More You Know7 Jan 2018, 08:41 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Jan 2018, 23:49 PMTobis I was under the impression that no focus fire does the re-roll once on misses, not that it will randomly aim at any unit in the squad first. Possibly test with kubel vs soviet sniper team? If it does re-rolls then the model it targets should usually die first, if it doesn't either model has equal chance to die first. My experience in game tells me the targeted model dies first a majority of the time. Look at this video that was in trending recently, the targeted sniper squad takes 2x the damage that the other squad takes. With re-rolls working the targeted entity should always take more hits than the others. Example with 30% accuracy: 3 outcomes Model 1: 30% hit 70% miss Model 2: 30% * 70% = 21% hit 79% miss Nothing: 70% * 70% = 49% both miss No focus fire is just a straight up buff to the weapon, literally an extra accuracy roll. Obers without focus fire would be even more deadly. It is highly probable that "reroll" does not happen for every single shot missed or that it fired with accuracy penalties, else these weapon would have around double the DPS calculated. That would explain the effect you describe. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: [big bug] all mg bar mg 34 and 42 dont benefit from cover 7 Jan 2018, 08:37 AM Being suppressed does not mean they do not get cover bonuses. Check the damage taken per bullet. In: COH2 Bugs
Thread: Cruzz's The More You Know6 Jan 2018, 22:28 PM Jump back to quoted post6 Jan 2018, 21:48 PMRedT3rror Obersoldaten are a good example. They use focus fire with the MG34 resulting in 1 model taking all the damage whereas a Kübelwagen distributes the damage among the units in the scatter circle. I find the whole "re-roll" idea quite absurd. So your test confirmed that it works as described. It should be removed from some weapon like the bar, for other I am not sure since having more models firing on the same entity seems to be big advantage for squad with more entities. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Cruzz's The More You Know6 Jan 2018, 21:24 PM Jump back to quoted post6 Jan 2018, 21:19 PMRedT3rror I believe we are wrong about that focus_fire thing. If in doubt I suggest you test it in game. Create a game in cheat mode and have a kubel firing on squad. Then check if the damage spread to more than one entity. Then repeat with a single PG entity instead of kubel. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Cruzz's The More You Know6 Jan 2018, 21:08 PM Jump back to quoted post6 Jan 2018, 19:01 PMRedT3rror Where can I find that collision hit in the mod tools? If that's correct, aren't the armored troops even more in a disadvantage? After all the armour modifier only gets used if they are hit. No. Think of your example. The unit with smaller size depends on missed shots to survive but with the "re-roll" every shot missed gets another chance to do damage. The unit with armor get hit more often and gets penetrate only some times, but because it get hits more there are less "re-rolls". This effect explains the power of kubel/SP since all weapon "re-roll" In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Cruzz's The More You Know6 Jan 2018, 17:47 PM Jump back to quoted post6 Jan 2018, 17:24 PMRedT3rror Well tell me where I am wrong. chance to hit(if >1 then it's 1):= (weapon accuracy)(received accuracy)(other modifiers such as vet) chance to damage:= (chance to hit)(chance to penetrate) So as long the chance to hit is not greater than 1, the chance to penetrate is just like any other modifier (when looking at damage) So for a volks STG vet0 close range against a unit with 1.5 armour and 1 size -> 0.551(1/1.5) = 0.3685 with 1 armour and 0.67 size -> 0.550.67*1 = 0.3685 At first glance your math seems to be correct. But you seem to miss the point. Certain weapon (mostly hmgs), including the ST44 and bar (don't remember if it applies to Volks ST44 thou) have a variable that allows them to score a sort of "collision hit" on another squad member. If the shot miss the first target it has a chance to hit another target and "reroll". In some ways it make sense for squad with small number of entities to have this advantage since their member get hit by multiple enemy entities but in some case like the bar or the Kubel it should have been removed. In you example the chance for both "rolls" to miss would be around 40% (or chance to hit would around 60%) that the ST44 would worse vs the unit with armor. Hope that I explain clearly enough. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Cruzz's The More You Know6 Jan 2018, 16:36 PM Jump back to quoted post6 Jan 2018, 16:23 PMRedT3rror Why should armour be superiour to received accuracy while fighting ST44? That would only be the case if there was a chance of >1 to hit the enemy. Only vetted units with high accuracy guns don't get the fullest out of their accuracy (mostly rifles which are rather ineffective against CQB units). However with Shocktroops you are very likely to meet high dps weapons like the MG42 and MG34 (both stationary or upgraded) which have penetration >1. Let me try to explain this with an example: A unit with ST44 fire on squad with TS 1 and armor 2. It has 50% chance to do damage. The same unit fire on unit with TS 0.5 and armor 1. It has 75% chance to do damage. High accuracy units firing on shock troops are less effective because hitting does not mean that they will do damage. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: [PERSONAL BALANCED MOD]HOI BALANCE MOD BETA6 Jan 2018, 16:09 PM Jump back to quoted post6 Jan 2018, 16:08 PMJohnSmith Post them here, I love where this mod is going. I will give your request the proper consideration, before making up my mind. In: COH2 Balance