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Thread: What is the weakness from Jackson?13 Jan 2018, 09:42 AM Jump back to quoted post13 Jan 2018, 04:42 AMthepwnasorour ... The Jackson is a TD, even worse, its USF only TD, it needs to be able to deal with any and all tanks medium and above that USF goes up against. ... Because it the only stock TD it does not mean that the USF do not have other tools to deal with meduims. Their ATG can deal with mediums (far better than the RW), every singe infantry can pick bazookas, paratroopers now get super bazooka, they have access to mines, Sherman can stand up to ostheer PzIV, they have access to M10, even Stuart can assist vs mediums. The idea that the M36 should completely shut down the PzIV by having extremely high chance to hit and penetrate 20 unit away from its max range and being able to outrun it is simply wrong. Especially since the arrival of PzIV should mean that Ostheer are finally able to start pushing and since M36 arrival is very close to it. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: What is the weakness from Jackson?12 Jan 2018, 22:42 PM Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2018, 22:17 PMArray What is your idea to make USF viable in team games? One should balance them game without KT in mind. KT or its counters can be balanced separately. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: What is the weakness from Jackson?12 Jan 2018, 17:49 PM Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2018, 17:41 PMHon3ynuts I Agree with all these points... That is why proposed 2 cateogiries: "heavy TDs" high penetration low accuracy. (good vs Super heavies average vs medium) "medium TDs" Low penetration high accuracy. (good vs medium average vs super heavies) In: COH2 Balance
Thread: What is the weakness from Jackson?12 Jan 2018, 13:41 PM Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2018, 12:41 PMMr.Smith - Reload speed - Longer aim-time (due to wind up) - Price - (and a tiny bit amount of less armor/larger target size) Jackson and Firefly prolly still need a range decrease to 55, and TDs in general need a popcap increase so that it's not Infantry spam & TD spam. Now that Heavies and Panthers have higher popcap, TDs can also afford to have higher popcap. Reload FF: 8.25s OKW PV: 7.5s (wind) OH PV: 6.65 (wind) Jackson: 6.55 (wind) Su85: 5.65 JPIV: 5 Su76: 4.275 (wind) Stug: 4.25 Average to low ready time/Aim time OKW PV: 0.125s (wind) OH PV: 0.125 (wind) Jackson: 0.125 (wind) Su76: 0.125 (wind) (corrected) (did not check numbers myself, borrowed them from elchino7, thanks providing man) Average Costs: OKW Panther 490/185 Wer Panther 490/175 FF 440/155 M36 400/140 JP 400/135 (which is more like medium TD, due to low penetration) Su-85 350/130 For a heavy TD (as a counter to heavy vehicles) is about medium price. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Redesigning support weapons 12 Jan 2018, 13:30 PM Posts: 3,530 edited 3:30PM The idea behind this suggestions is to keep the effectiveness of support units one vs the other while while in the same time reduce the effectiveness vs mainline infantry. To achieve this propose the following changes: Target size of HMG/Mortars reduced to 1 HP of HMG/Mortars reduced to 60 Damage of Mortars sniper down to 60. Certain grenades might need some adjustment also. With these changes bleed from mortars and sniper will be reduced, while this weapons will remain effective vs support weapons. In addition flanking and grenades will remain solid counter to them. An issue will be re-crewed support weapon but imo it will be minor. Other changes that might included: slower reinforcement speed slower cap time increase in reinforcement cost In: Lobby
Thread: What is the weakness from Jackson?12 Jan 2018, 00:44 AM Jump back to quoted post11 Jan 2018, 23:18 PMelchino7 Mind that FF does 200 (240 with vet) and Jackson does 160 (200 with AP) which makes them different when dealing with diverse HP pool. Also what Jae states. Burst > sustain damage. You aim, shoot and then reload. Also Tulips is a far greater potential threat which deserves the slight higher cost of the unit. If something needs to be done, i'll go first for cost (i don't think it's too far from it like a bit mp and +5 fuel) or mobility. FF has ridiculously high accuracy and even more ridiculously high mid range (45 longer the Elephant at 35!). When vetted it can hit a kubel (smaller target size vehicle) with around 100% at range 60. It has sight radius of 45 from vet 0 and 2 very good abilities with hammer "warspeed" and "hammer trucking". The unit need to looked at. Actually the all this "heavy" TDs need to have their chance to hit medium tanks lowered since they can already penetrate them reliably. Medium Tds on the other hand like the SU-76 should have their far penetration lowered since the can penetrate a tiger quite reliably. The SU-85 in addition need a much higher Pop cost and probably a higher cost. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: What is the weakness from Jackson?11 Jan 2018, 18:03 PM Jump back to quoted post11 Jan 2018, 16:45 PMMarkedRaptor I thought they nerfed Jacksons moving/shooting accuracy now a long with that price increase (Which is pretty noticeable)? No only damage, but buffed penetration.(40/15!) Jump back to quoted post11 Jan 2018, 16:45 PMMarkedRaptor ... as far as weaknesses of the new Jackson(Compared to other TD's) 1. High Cost(Especially since USF has things to spend fuel on) 2. High reload times, can't reliably deal with medium tanks and has a hard time fighting other TD's. 3. Paper armor Thing is it actually has positives now. 1) Costs: OKW Panther 490/185 Wer Panther 490/175 FF 440/155 M36 400/140 JP 400/135 (which is more like medium TD, due to low penetration) Su-85 350/130 For a heavy TD (as a counter to heavy vehicles) is about medium price. 2) Reload The reload time is 4.375/4.975 which is pretty high and it faster than its more expensive brothers. 3) The armor difference between Jackson, FF, Su-85 is not really that much and hardly makes a difference, so I would it about average. Only Panthers and JPs have significantly more armor. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: What is the weakness from Jackson?11 Jan 2018, 15:10 PM Jump back to quoted post11 Jan 2018, 15:06 PMKharn Who needs that when you have maphack truck? The Truck does not give vision to fire only mini map information. Actually allies have a variety of option for both mini map and LOS on target information. The list is quite big. Your comment, is also irrelevant to the fact that specific user based his reply on inaccurate stats. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: What is the weakness from Jackson?11 Jan 2018, 14:55 PM Jump back to quoted post11 Jan 2018, 11:57 AMsome one ... Jackson has 35 vision range .. Actually it has 40 and 45 at vet 2. For comparison reasons OKW PZIV and Panther also get bonus vision but at VET 5 and only when stationary...(and vet 5 is quite difficult to achieve for both units). In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW is absolutely trash now, rebalance this asap!11 Jan 2018, 12:10 PM Jump back to quoted post11 Jan 2018, 11:27 AMKasarov In regards to the topic,... Imo the homogenization of faction should not continue especially since one can find solution to fix design and balance issues. If the OKW trucks offer no real advantage being placed out side than can simply be replace by building. If losing a truck is crippling for that faction and with the current bonus they offer there is little reason to place outside base. That is why I made the suggestion where their presence outside base becomes useful but losing does not become crippling. In: COH2 Balance