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Yeah what others reported, the ability doesn't work after you issue a move order after the ability.

Can't you just make it like the M81's barrage ability, which can be fired on the move?

Also, if you nerf the Brits and not compensate them in any way they WILL become Ostheer 2.0, Firefly is still out-matched by StuG spam and needs constant support while the only thing the Cromwell has going for it is it's speed and crush, and that's it. Comet... I don't see why not give it a 200 fuel price but that's the most I'd go with it seeing as it doesn't have an MG like the rest of the tanks in the game and it's abilities are still bugged.

But perhaps instead of nerfing something into uselessness it's counterparts should be a bit buffed? Panthers are underperforming, we can all see that, as well as the OKW's Elite Armor doctrine seriously needs some adjustments made to it for example, especially the repair and the tank commander abilities.

I also noticed that sometimes the artillery from the tank commander won't land, or it is just me?

But in all seriousness I think we should all look at everything one by one, each commander and each Army with it's respective units need to be looked at before the release of DOW III and the officially cutting of support for this game.

P.S.

Also forgot to mention Churchill is useless and only noobs use it, or people that just aren't aware that the Comet is a better choice.

I feel bad for Anvil tho.

Only viable Churchill is the Croc, and that's about it.

I made this idea into a small mod, or rather updated an old mod that did something similar.

• Ordnance ML 3-inch Mortar Team:
  Buildable in British T1 for 240MP. Slower rate of fire than the German GrW 34, but more accurate. White Phosphorous Barrage at Vet 1. Counter Barrage unlocked with the Advanced Emplacement Regiment.
  
  
• Artillery Pit:
  Replaces the British Mortar Emplacement. An empty structure that can be built by Royal Engineers for 100MP. All mobile mortars and artillery pieces can be garrisoned and receive a 15% bonus to the range of their barrage abilities. When empty, the structure can be garrisoned by the enemy. (Might be restricted to mortars only. Still playing around!)
  
  
• Known Issue:
  Artillery guns and heavy mortars can only fire to the front side of the emplacement, because they can't move or rotate while garrisoned. I'm not sure if this can be changed.

It's available on the Workshop:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=679152285

Thanks against for making it into a mod to prove a point.

And I also think the heavy guns are plagued by the same bug when garrisoned in emplacements, that's why it was removed.

But in theory they can still perform well when emplaced, they'll just be more limited than the mortars when inside.

coh2 was about mobile gameplay, but we have some glorious cancer pit and bofcancer. remove it, burn it, do whatever you want. just get rid off this cancerplaystyle

but what would be nice: IF YOU WOULD SET A LIMIT TO IT! like you did it with heavy tanks.. as you should also do it with snipers..

My aim is not to limit the player but to provide a mobile alternative and give the player a choice he can make for himself.

And besides, you normally don't see more than 1 or 2 bofors, I usually never make more than 1.

But you see more than 1 mortar pit per game USUALLY, so this is a way of artificially "limiting" it as you said.

The Mortar Pit could be a cheap, garrisonable structure increasing a mortar's range and decreasing its received damage. Brace wouldn't be necessary, since you could just ungarrison and move your mortar somewhere else if under attack. For a mobile mortar team, I see two viable options:

• The Ordnance ML 3-inch Mortar, using the USF M1 81mm model.
  Good rate of fire and medium range.
  
• The Ordnance ML 4.2-inch Mortar, using the Soviet HM-38 120mm model.
  Slower rate of fire and longer range.

One of them could be a stock unit in T1, while the other could be doctrinal. This would open up some new tactical possibilities and maybe cut down on camping a little.

The reason why the mortar pit has a greater range than the ordinary mortars is because it's static, if you make it mobile then there's no more need for it's huge range since you can just move it now, plus the range is why so many people want to nerf it into oblivion in the first place, that's why I'm suggesting this. I agree with you as far as the damage decrease goes tho.

Yes, Brace wouldn't be needed anymore, the mortar pit would just become a bigger trench in a sense.

I agree with you yet again, however the ML 4.2 inch mortar doesn't really fit in with the whole Soviet model thing, that's really the only problem I have with it, that it would require an entirely new model to work with and I don't think Relic are going to be willing to do it.

So yeah, the ML 3-inch Mortar with the USF M1 81mm mortar model and your suggested stats would work and look way better, plus I don't see how in god's good name would the Soviet HM-38 fit in the mortar emplacement lol.

Alright so, seeing as the Winter Balance Patch is about to release soon (I hope), I thought it might be a good idea to start working on some of the other issues that need addressing in the next (hopefully) not so far community balance patch.

So the British Mortar pit, loved by campers, hated by everyone else, including mobile Brit players that don't like to camp at least most of the time.

Currently the British have 4 in-direct fire options, one being the Mortar Pit, the other being the Base 25 Pounders, the 3rd being the Sexton and the 4th being the Land Mattress.

Now if we put these in segments they would look something like this:

Mortar Pit, big 400 man power costing emplacement, plus taking up 10 pop, which you also cannot delete like in CoH after the fighting around is done to regain your pop cap.

The problem here is balancing this emplacement, you need SOME form of indirect fire MOST of the time so you turn to this thing, and as I've noticed, most British players center their camping strategy around this emplacement the most, while the Bofors is also often seen be campy Brits, the mortar pit is easily the emplacement which is built the most.

Now, you can't nerf it, because the Brits have no none-doctrinal alternative for it unlike their other 2 emplacements, and you can't remove it altogether, but you can replace it with an alternative variant of itself.

I've said this many times for the past few months and since this is the topic dedicated to the matter, how about adding a mobile 3-inch mortar squad to T1, and transforming the mortar pit into a garrisonable emplacement, which your mortars can garrison for extra protection and perhaps some sort of bonus at Vet 1 similar to the Vickers Vet 1 when it's garrisoned, that bonus can range to a flat passive boost to performance like fire rate, for example, since range is out of the question, or the mortar pit gives it 4 times of shells which the mortars inside can utilize, anybody who was in the UKF Alpha knows what I'm talking about here.

The next indirect fire option we have are the base 25 pounders, which if we're honest here, are complete shite and only serve as good area of denial weapons which when not paired with the Anvil Tactics, are even less effective, but hey for what you're paying, they're not borderline useless but I'd still prefer a dedicated none fuel costing default mobile in-direct fire unit.

The 3rd indirect fire option being the Sexton, a late coming "nerfed" version of the Priest, meant to be a mobile variant of the base 25 pounders that also comes from one of the least used and popular British doctrines. On paper they should work but they really don't sadly, paired with the Valentine they sort of work as an area of denial weapons but still, you need an artillery unit with a punch, not a mobile version of something which you already have. Too bad they removed the recon section as well as the observation officer from the UKF Alpha, I think those additional units rounded up the doctrine's roaster pretty well. The only good thing about this unit is probably the Creeping barrage that is nowhere near as effective as the Priest one from both this game and CoH.

The 4th and final option, the Land Mattress. Now this rocket based fuel costing and 10 pop cap taking unit is not bad, at all, and it serves as a good alternative to the mortar pit, but it's doctrinal, costs fuel, costs more man power than what a normal mobile mortar squad would cost and it takes up wayyy more pop cap than what a normal mortar squad would take up, plus with the constant complaining of it being OP I don't really think it will say as effective for much longer until it's nerfed.

Now these are my own personal and humble opinions on the matter, I only wish for a polite discussion and to hear and see what other people think, that is all.

Thanks in advance for reading my block of text and have a nice day, cheers!