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Okay? And what about OH and soviet arty.

You missed that out so I fixed it for you to prove that you have an eye on all factions. I always voted for a change of this mechanic. Even a vet3 a howitzer is instantly killed by a bunch of offmaps. Scout Plane + for example Stuka 50kg bomb or IL2 Bombing run and its finished of. Click+Click+Click+Click = dead howitzer. What a silly game mechanic, there is just nothing you can do about it. Both howitzers cost only MP at least, but it is stupid nevertheless. If the howitzer itself would only decrewed by offmaps as long as a crew is manning it, it would take some more effort to completely kill it.

Or OKW/OH AT emplacements. They cost MP and fuel. But they don't have a magic forcefield.

1) they cost no fuel (as Katitof stated in a rather ironic way)
2) they cost half popcap and can be remanned, they can be positioned behind buildings because they can shoot through it (this is adding to survivability)
3) it is still not okay to oneshot them without any skill with a single offmap attack

The only axis emplacement that is hilarious up on itself is the OKW flak emplacement. This one costs fuel and it is so bad, that you never want to build it.

British emplacements should be used as a luxury support unit. Not a sim city play style that is able to support itself.

Don't like the emplacement commander, I got him dropped but I'm refusing to put him in my commander layout for brits. Emplacements without this commander are beatable. Just nerf this commander into the ground, I'm okay with that.

OKW was such "everything at once" faction, and it was problem those days and I wrote about it a lot on official forums. But... here came UKF and even OKW looks like "very nice designed and balanced faction" compared with it.

OKW still is, especially after the balance mod will come out. No Infantry crush for Cromwells + its size nerf + Snare for OKW + non-doctrinal MG. OKW will profit from this changes. OKW has very powerful early + strongest late game and a mid game that just feels okay.

I only think, that if they giving to faction so powerful defensive game with tough and strong emplacements - let it have no real offencive gameplay then, or really difficult and overpriced offencive gameplay. It's reasonable, it worked in vCoH. And it works with USSR, but in another way. USSR don't have any defencive structures and their defensive gameplay is complicated and requires a lot of micro, head ache and such things, but for that - offensive HMGs, offensive spammable tanks, offensive spammable infantry... It's trade - powerful offensive to non-existed defencive.

So, why is it not allowable to USSR to have both defencive and offensive gameplay, but allowable to UKF? Why UKF have in stock tanks, compareable in power with Tiger and in same time - emplacements, which covers half of map with fire and destroying everything, even their counters, but when I suggest to give to USSR "defensive HMG bunkers for to make point and frontline protection less problematic" everyone says "You gonna make USSR OP, nevar!!!"?

Where is logic of faction balance then? One factions have everything, other have to suck and everyone admits it as normal, just because "1v1 stats show us, that everything is fine". They are fine because people are skilful enough to play as such shitty faction and win, not because it's good.

What I wanted to say is, that brits have the weakest early game. So they are bad at something actually. The missing snare and absence of early-mid offensive units can be abused by your opponent. At the moment the mortar pit makes up for this. As I said I'm not a fan of static play and I never played this bs emplacement commander, but I think without mortar pit they would really have a hard time unless something else fills the gap. I don't think brits have a good design but neither have OKW or USF. Yeah, some Soviet/Ostheer units need more care, but in the whole I like their basic design the most, becasue they have less bs mechanics as the three newer factions.

sorry, double post

But UKF is sooooo broken... how people can't see this? Faction in core needs serious redesign, right now it is ridiculous to have that as faction in "competitive game".

As Waegukin said already winratios don't reflect this and there is a reason for it. I played around a lot with brits since their release and yeah their emplacements with the exception of 17pdr are very strong. But if you set them under pressure from the start they will struggle and bleeding manpower heavily. Ostheer Sniper for example is a pain in the ass for brits, because their is no real counter (UC does not well enough). Furhermore your opponent can force you in an AEC so Bofors are no further option then.

I'm not a fan of static games and playing the brits as offensive as possible, but of course I need one well placed mortar pit at least for its indirect fire option. If it would be easy destructible there wouldn't be any indirect options. If you nerf emplacements you would have to buff a long list of other units, to give brits better offensive capabilities, or give them Sexton or Land Matress as a nondoctrinal unit.

This is very well described. If you are playing a team who is well coordinated, these abilities can have a YUGE impact on the game, enough to swing it in a different direction. When these abilities are called multiple times and spread out properly you can basically cover half the map, making impossible to avoid, even in your base. If Relic limits air abilities per team to one at a time, it will greatly alleviate the impact these abilities have in team games. Ex: if p47s are in the air, typhoon fighters must wait till the p47 run is finished.

+1 to Mr. Smith too, very precise.

Your suggestion seems reasonable. There has to be done something about multiple use of Offmap attacks (especially plane attacks) at the same time and the same location. It is so easy to pull off and it has such a big game impact.