Profile of general_gawain

Faction + Commander Name: UKF Canadian Assault Regiment

Theme: Canadians were always known as the Commonwealth's "shock troops"...


Unit and Ability Roster

Slot 1: Assault "Tommy" Section -> with flamer upgrade or "No 77 White Phosporus Grenade"

Slot 2: M1 81mm Mortar team

Slot 3: Hold the Line -> change into Recon Plane or Land Mattress

Slot 4: 3-inch M10 "Achilles" Tank Destroyer

Slot 5: Strafing Support

Slightly changed submission of A.Soldier to bring Brits back in 1vs1 with an aggressive commander.
(He already wrote most of what I would have, thumbs up for that man)

Change 1: Assault Tommies could have a flamer upgrade or phosporus nade for clearing of buildings and defensive positions

Change 2: Take out "Hold the line" and add something aggressive like Land Mattress (Canadians used it too) or Recon Plane to kill or recon enemy fortified lines and strengthen the overall attack value of this commander even further.

Looks like you a not top tier player, mate. No offence here. But the main problem with beating german is sum of good HMG42 - volks build into fast Shtuka - PzWerfers.

I do think both of you are right.

In the very early game the strong OKW start with Spios into Volksgrens without having to build or tech for anything is very good for taking the strategical positions like fuel on the middle line of the map first. HMG42 and Bunkers in some decent positions can secure and lock it down afterwards. Most of this 3vs3 and 4vs4 maps are too narrow so there is no room to flank (-> map problem). When you go for allied mortars and the like to counter it the first stukka comes incredibly fast because of resource inflation in the bigger game modes (-> resource inflation problem). And there you have a problem in the big game modes because any real allied counter versus axis faction digging in is CP locked in a commander while ressources float so high that you reach T4 long before you get Valentine/Priest/Land matress and so on (-> CPs not inflated). The only exception to this is the Katyusha so we never play that arranged team 4vs4 without at least one Soviet.

When the game goes to longterm voltadark is right. Because many allied units are bound to commanders, they are more limited in unit diversity. For example USF can only have heavy tank or rocket artillery or long range artillery piece or specialised AI-Tank (Bulldozer). At the same time you need recon planes, elite infantry and offmap which you only get partly with that four choices. Because of this you have communicate with your mates and thats a lot easier in voice chat of an arranged team like voltadark stated.

Axis factions have less blind spots in their unit roster and its easier to cover them with one or two of the more diverse commanders.

Two things that are absolute bs vor 3vs3 and 4vs4 (in addition to ressource inflation and map layout):
1. Infrared HT -> You changed the Valentine and thats fine but this no-brainer has to be changed too, make it a timed munition depend ability at least -> UK Boyz AT recon ability and command vehicle recon was changed too in a similar way and Boyz AT were way less of a problem
2. Ressource abilities -> Ressource drops (Ostheer+Soviet) and Ressource trucks (only axis). I always wondered why axis has more of it and USF has none at all, but although beeing historical ironic thats not the point. It just adds to the already existing ressource inflation problem and shouldn't have a place in the bigger game modes.

What commanders do you think are under or over preforming just out of curiosity?

So as I spoke of up and op commanders the questions for some examples were directed to me. So I'll give some examples. I have to remark first that like Viper said only a few abilities have to be adjusted or maybe exchanged in rare cases to make it work and change up/op status.


Lets start with the new commando commander first. I think its a good example of a well rounded commander. Very strong AI, smoke and good offmap versus team weapons but no doctrinal AT or doctrinal spamable guaranted-single-hit-killing offmap versus artillery emplacements and the like. Meant to be played agressively, he has strength but he has weaknesses while every commander ability is useful somehow. Interesting for team mechanics/team play in bigger games.


Examples for commanders that have to much good abilities that cover too much blank spots of a faction: Jaeger Armour (Ostheer) or Shock Motor Heavy Tactics (Soviet):

Elephant (with Scope) / ISU-152
Dive Bomb / IL2-Precision Strike
Recon Plane / Increased Repair (Conscripts)
AT-Mine / Elite Infanty (Shock Troops)

Especially in the bigger game modes that have a long late game I don't like this "I have everything I need" in one commander.


Example of an up commander:
Since Wolverine went to tech (and that was a very good decision) there is no reason to take US Armor commander anymore, because you usually took it to skip tech in 1vs1/2vs2 and go for call-ins. Assault engineers scale badly into mid/late and have less meat than other US units, Thompson upgrade for vehicle crews is one of the three worst abilities in this game, M10 is still okay, 240mm off-map is not the best off-map around but okay, Bulldozer is only an option in 1vs1 because of beeing a call-in option. In every other game mode it comes later than Brummbar and is inferior to it in every single way but turnable turret (speed/armour/penetration/AOE/special ability...).
Some tweaks would make it viable: Let assault engineers scale better, exchange Thompson crew upgrade versus something like mines or Tank Commander, bind Bulldozer to tech and buff its AI to Brummbar level. And there you have another specialist commander (like Commando) that gives interestings options without covering any spot by itself. You could even strip the only offmap of it (240mm) and take another tank or vehicle call-in instead (M3/M5/Pershing...). I would like to see more specialist commanders for teamplay.

I'm just wondering if there is a plan to rework some more commanders to make the game more versatile at commander choices? Every faction has some hilarious up commanders, a rework of 2-3 per faction would be a great thing. I really appreciate the changes that were made to some commanders in the last community patch.

The katy is far better than werfer since you can get decent damage even at max range unlike werfer. You wont get wipes with it too often due to scatter, but the damage is consistent unlike werfer which fires probably only a third or fourth of the rockets.

You say it yourself: You wont get wipes as often. In lategame infantry battle is about having your units full vetted to win the infantry battles. If you win the infantry battles you can support your tanks versus their tanks and team weapons. Wipe a vet 3 unit (maybe upgraded with weapons) with a PW or kill eight grenadiers of different squads with a Katy. Which one is better? I would always choose wiping a vetted squad, it wins games for you. PW is far better at doing that special thing.