And he attempted to use that as an argument that change is not needed.
Its not unwise, its plain dumb.
That is like saying we shouldn't buff 222, because it'll lose to T-70 anyway.
That kind of argument doesn't make any sense at all.
He has supported a huff for the T 34/76. He just wants a better tank out of the bat, a position that I also agree with. |
Finaly. Finaly someone with THE SOLUTION. Now that, that I would agree with. T34 needs to scale better in veterancy maybe not so much as you described, but this is definetely the only reasonable way to buff it.
Did you not ready anything at all, in this mammoth thread? A lot of people have been saying the same thing man. Stop sucking up, dude |
For the record mate im done discussing the t-34 in real life. But if you are going to enter a debate you have to provide a lot more information then just throwing 2 random charts to me without any context. i cannot be bothered to look up this university. and why should i do your work!
you want to discuss this with me do so by p,m.
LOL! and WTF .
Indeed, I suggest you take a comprehension class. I will donate 50% of the tuition |
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Your English is bad mate. i have no idea what those graphs are or where they come from. but we are here to discuss the t-34.
But lets get back to the t-34. its fine for cost and what it is doing. but the t-34 and the p4 long suffered from the fact their is no TD in either tier 3. the result is that your utterly screwed by jacksons as the ostheer and panthers as the SU.
Thats why the sherman is so popular with the usf. even if a panther rolls out you only need to wait a few minutes to get your jackson on the field.
I don't think his English is that bad, i don't think its hard to comprehend him. He is trying to answer you, using evidence, which is a word you have never heard of |
Daspoulos has never opened a history book that wasn't biased, if at all apparently. The T34 was only reliably killed by the 88 until the heavier Panzers were developed to kill it. The long barreled Panzer 4 still had to close to a range it could hit back, also that by the time of the long barreled variants appearance, the Russians were firing back with the 85mm.
The T34 wasn't just good because it was mass produced, It was successful as it didn't get stuck in mud, didn't light on fire by moving even early in its production, didn't freeze up in the climates the invading Nazi Germany found itself in, and yes was also very easy to put together and was a damn good machine (which as much as it makes you red in the face the Nazi's saw that). Just as if production of the Panzer 4 late variants or Panther would have seen the Nazis off much better than wasting so much time and effort on tanks that equated to the production time of 4 of the less complicated Panzers. Hell someone even posted the prototype i mentioned, its a T34 drawn by German designer lol.
I think History speaks for itself, especially when the Germans developed new tanks in direct response to the "shit" T34/76.
Thanks for the usual derail Daspoulos back to topic, 76 would be fine in a more AT intensive role to encourage its use, with a fuel increase to bring that in line. As has been mentioned here, bitching about call in Meta and refusing to even hear of buffs for non doc units is pretty dumb when its the lack of good solid stock units that is the root of the issue.
You think he has read any history book? You are an optimist and a believer of the virtues of men  |
where did you pull those numbers from? That doesnt even make any sense
He usually doesn't make sense, even when Alex makes |
All heavy should come way more late anyway, Medium tanks are way way way more fun than Heavy against Heavy.
Dude, if Alex thinks an Allied unit under performs, you better believe that the unit is bad |
You really think its possible to spam those units?
oui, but mainly in team games |
If you are not abusing "offensive stance" you are doing it wrong.
Oh ok, cool. that has never happened to me, that's why I asked |
Having to stop to fire isn't much of a disadvantage when stopping to fire gives you a huge bonus. IE defensive stance.
i am asking again, has anyone done this to you? |
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