T-34 needs a buff

You really think its possible to spam those units?

I once faced 5 Tigers in a single match, and it was a 1v1.

It wasn't even a map control issue. We both had exactly half of the map and put caches down on every point, but he just went hardcore defensive.

I had the VPs so I figured I'd wait him out, but I guess I forgot that he had the heavy armor. If I hadn't built Jacksons then I doubt I would've survived the first four Tigers, meanwhile any Shermans I made were totally useless. P47s helped too.

So if you can get 5 Tigers in a 1v1 with even map control, then I'd say yeah, they're spammable. If you save your fuel until Tigers unlock then it's not inconcievable to have enough saved up to spam them. If you see one Tiger, then you can rest assured that another is on the way, and they'll just keep on coming until the game ends.

On the subject of the T-34...

They definitely feel pretty subpar. Really if it wasn't for the halftrack I'd probably go T4 every time, but the mobile reinforcement is great. Dank Hunter Tactics is nice too; the salvage kit lets me really churn the things out, and makes it safe for me to ram and lose the tank with no real penalties. At that point I start using the T-34s as AT mines against anything bigger than a PzIV.

Sure would love to have a tank that actually threatens infantry, though. The MG on that thing must be shooting blanks because it barely ever kills anything even at point blank. It is good at crushing though, so that's nice.

Yeah. Essentially all the "stock" mediums such as the PIV, T34/76 and Short Gun Sherman are bad versus heavies and mostly best against infantry, the PIV stands out as best because it costs the most.

Still the T34/76 does need help.

All heavy should come way more late anyway, Medium tanks are way way way more fun than Heavy against Heavy.

He already cost 25 less fuel than a PZ4 no ?

For one thing, at vet 2 the Pz IV has 56% more armour than the T-34/76.

I once faced 5 Tigers in a single match, and it was a 1v1.

It wasn't even a map control issue. We both had exactly half of the map and put caches down on every point, but he just went hardcore defensive.

I had the VPs so I figured I'd wait him out, but I guess I forgot that he had the heavy armor. If I hadn't built Jacksons then I doubt I would've survived the first four Tigers, meanwhile any Shermans I made were totally useless. P47s helped too.

So if you can get 5 Tigers in a 1v1 with even map control, then I'd say yeah, they're spammable. If you save your fuel until Tigers unlock then it's not inconcievable to have enough saved up to spam them. If you see one Tiger, then you can rest assured that another is on the way, and they'll just keep on coming until the game ends.

On the subject of the T-34...

They definitely feel pretty subpar. Really if it wasn't for the halftrack I'd probably go T4 every time, but the mobile reinforcement is great. Dank Hunter Tactics is nice too; the salvage kit lets me really churn the things out, and makes it safe for me to ram and lose the tank with no real penalties. At that point I start using the T-34s as AT mines against anything bigger than a PzIV.

Sure would love to have a tank that actually threatens infantry, though. The MG on that thing must be shooting blanks because it barely ever kills anything even at point blank. It is good at crushing though, so that's nice.

Duration of the match ?

Cause spending 1200 fuel ( exluding Tier build, and other tech ), its a long one

Duration of the match ?

Cause spending 1200 fuel ( exluding Tier build, and other tech ), its a long one

His description sounds like around 1h game.
Most last 30-40 min and 2 heavies are not uncommon by then, you can usually pump one after another when you reach right CP.

For one thing, at vet 2 the Pz IV has 56% more armour than the T-34/76.

And at Vet2, T34 win +30% reload speed, PZ4 does not

His description sounds like around 1h game.
Most last 30-40 min and 2 heavies are not uncommon by then, you can usually pump one after another when you reach right CP.

I'am agree, and this is the moment when the game become boring to watch, and boring to play (for me at least), can put heavies to 16 CP ?

And at Vet2, T34 win +30% reload speed, PZ4 does not

Which brings it to an expected reload time of 4.6 seconds.

The Panzer IV has, from vet 0, an expected reload time of 5.5 seconds.

Which brings it to an expected reload time of 4.6 seconds.

The Panzer IV has, from vet 0, an expected reload time of 5.5 seconds.

Yep, the T34's biggest weakness is it's reload.

The fact that the Panther has higher acceleration and max speed values than the T-34 is completely laughable.

Blalalord, you dont play coh2 much, its absolutely not uncommon to spam tigers in 1v1, but everything you write here is so offtopic

How about we get rid of this historicity and give the T-34 accuracy on the move (just like before). I think ROF should stay the same and just buff the accuracy on the move for fast hit and run tactics.

Which brings it to an expected reload time of 4.6 seconds.

The Panzer IV has, from vet 0, an expected reload time of 5.5 seconds.

T34 gun does have bigger aoe than Pz4 gun

Blalalord, you dont play coh2 much, its absolutely not uncommon to spam tigers in 1v1, but everything you write here is so offtopic

I was talking with goldeneale, maybe you could learn to use/read quotes

The fact that the Panther has higher acceleration and max speed values than the T-34 is completely laughable.

It has literally .1 more in both, and the Panther costs 75 more fuel which is 3/4's of a T34.

Always funny how people get upset that more specialist expensive units outperform cheaper generalist units.

T34 gun does have bigger aoe than Pz4 gun

Wrong, they have same AoE radius, but P4 got much better AoE profile and much less distance scatter.

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Duration of the match ?

Cause spending 1200 fuel ( exluding Tier build, and other tech ), its a long one

It was an hour long, almost exactly.

Then make the 34/76 25 fuel more and make it perform like the tank that it was, the tank that was copied (quite literally with one prototype) to create the Panther. This unit does not need cost decreases, it does not need to go back to old stats, it needs a new lease on life lol. Just like some units that IF alpha tested changes come true to life, will shock the foundations of the "intended role" ideas. Guess the SU76 intended role was to be a target. If it means more fuel cost so be it, but the current state units available on tier 3 and 4 is why the soviets rarley tech unless for Kats or T70.

All heavy should come way more late anyway, Medium tanks are way way way more fun than Heavy against Heavy.

Dude, if Alex thinks an Allied unit under performs, you better believe that the unit is bad